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Attributes | |
ACN | 639110 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ric.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 261 flight time total : 3050 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 639110 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
Landing runway 34 during the rollout, approximately 80 KIAS, we were instructed to hold short of runway 20 for departing traffic. This took us by surprise because it sounded to me a little like a lahso. (I realize it isn't, but I hadn't been asked to do this with this kind of runway setup.) if you are looking at the chart and picture us rolling to the end of the runway, which we were doing, you will see the 'hot spot' at the end of runway 34 due to the hold short line for runway 20, which is across the runway markings for runway 16. I wanted to keep my eyes outside the cockpit to help the captain with what I saw as a confusing situation. I saw a red runway 20 sign to the left side of the runway, but no other signage (I must have missed whatever else they had). I glanced inside the cockpit to glance at the runway chart and when we looked outside I saw yellow lines for what I thought were arresting gear wires. The captain later told me that this must have been the hold short line. Tower said nothing to us and after the departing aircraft took off we were cleared to cross runway 20 and taxi in to the gate. For my part, I obviously should have noticed the runway chart which had the hold short information on it. This was a new and frustrating experience for me and I hope and pray that I am better for it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ERJ200 CREW LNDG ON RWY 34 AT RIC RECEIVED LAST MIN INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 20 AND MISSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE MARKINGS.
Narrative: LNDG RWY 34 DURING THE ROLLOUT, APPROX 80 KIAS, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 20 FOR DEPARTING TFC. THIS TOOK US BY SURPRISE BECAUSE IT SOUNDED TO ME A LITTLE LIKE A LAHSO. (I REALIZE IT ISN'T, BUT I HADN'T BEEN ASKED TO DO THIS WITH THIS KIND OF RWY SETUP.) IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CHART AND PICTURE US ROLLING TO THE END OF THE RWY, WHICH WE WERE DOING, YOU WILL SEE THE 'HOT SPOT' AT THE END OF RWY 34 DUE TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 20, WHICH IS ACROSS THE RWY MARKINGS FOR RWY 16. I WANTED TO KEEP MY EYES OUTSIDE THE COCKPIT TO HELP THE CAPT WITH WHAT I SAW AS A CONFUSING SIT. I SAW A RED RWY 20 SIGN TO THE L SIDE OF THE RWY, BUT NO OTHER SIGNAGE (I MUST HAVE MISSED WHATEVER ELSE THEY HAD). I GLANCED INSIDE THE COCKPIT TO GLANCE AT THE RWY CHART AND WHEN WE LOOKED OUTSIDE I SAW YELLOW LINES FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WERE ARRESTING GEAR WIRES. THE CAPT LATER TOLD ME THAT THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE HOLD SHORT LINE. TWR SAID NOTHING TO US AND AFTER THE DEPARTING ACFT TOOK OFF WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 20 AND TAXI IN TO THE GATE. FOR MY PART, I OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THE RWY CHART WHICH HAD THE HOLD SHORT INFO ON IT. THIS WAS A NEW AND FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT I AM BETTER FOR IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.