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Attributes | |
ACN | 639139 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors arrival star : clarr 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 639139 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 500 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While en route hnd from lax, arrived via the clarr 2 arrival. Crossed clarr at 13000 ft. Then given vectors for the visual to runway 17R at hnd. We were then cleared to 7000 ft and given several small turns to come into hnd from the southwest. Before reaching 7000 ft, we were cleared for 4000 ft. Altitude was set for 4000 ft by the first officer and confirmed by me (PF). After passing 5000 ft at about 4500 ft, ATC queried us on altitude and were told 4500 ft descending to 4000 ft. They said we should be at 5000 ft and they were getting a terrain alert. We had already stopped at 4500 ft before the query thinking that it looked kind of low for a vectoring altitude. About the same time we called the airport in sight and were cleared for the visual and xferred to tower. We then continued descent to airport and landed uneventfully. At no time was the safety of the aircraft in jeopardy. Supplemental information from acn 639226: in the future I will be more cognizant of vectoring altitudes below MSA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C560 CREW MISUNDERSTOOD DSCNT CLRNC AND DSNDED BELOW THE MVA ON ARR TO HND, NV.
Narrative: WHILE ENRTE HND FROM LAX, ARRIVED VIA THE CLARR 2 ARR. CROSSED CLARR AT 13000 FT. THEN GIVEN VECTORS FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 17R AT HND. WE WERE THEN CLRED TO 7000 FT AND GIVEN SEVERAL SMALL TURNS TO COME INTO HND FROM THE SW. BEFORE REACHING 7000 FT, WE WERE CLRED FOR 4000 FT. ALT WAS SET FOR 4000 FT BY THE FO AND CONFIRMED BY ME (PF). AFTER PASSING 5000 FT AT ABOUT 4500 FT, ATC QUERIED US ON ALT AND WERE TOLD 4500 FT DSNDING TO 4000 FT. THEY SAID WE SHOULD BE AT 5000 FT AND THEY WERE GETTING A TERRAIN ALERT. WE HAD ALREADY STOPPED AT 4500 FT BEFORE THE QUERY THINKING THAT IT LOOKED KIND OF LOW FOR A VECTORING ALT. ABOUT THE SAME TIME WE CALLED THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL AND XFERRED TO TWR. WE THEN CONTINUED DSCNT TO ARPT AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. AT NO TIME WAS THE SAFETY OF THE ACFT IN JEOPARDY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 639226: IN THE FUTURE I WILL BE MORE COGNIZANT OF VECTORING ALTS BELOW MSA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.