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IFR C182 with sct experienced conflict at 6000 ft with air carrier 500 ft above his aircraft near sli VORTAC.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 644590 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200501 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : sli.vortac |
| Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 4500 |
| ASRS Report | 644590 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were on an IFR flight plan (in good VFR conditions) from long beach airport; ca; to san diego; ca. Our assigned altitude was 6000 ft and we were at this altitude; over the seal beach VORTAC on heading of 080 degrees; talking with socal approach when I looked up and there he was -- a B737. You could read everything on the aircraft! Only a few hundred ft away. I called socal and they were not talking to him. Socal said he was supposed to be at 7000 ft. He was not. He made no effort to change course. He was so close that we felt his wake turbulence. Since socal was not talking to him; we could only surmise he was going to lax. He was approaching us from the south (or the right side of my aircraft). I fly from the copilot's seat and my friend was in the pilot's seat and she saw him first. Had he been just a little lower; he could have ruined my whole day!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR C182 WITH SCT EXPERIENCED CONFLICT AT 6000 FT WITH ACR 500 FT ABOVE HIS ACFT NEAR SLI VORTAC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN (IN GOOD VFR CONDITIONS) FROM LONG BEACH ARPT; CA; TO SAN DIEGO; CA. OUR ASSIGNED ALT WAS 6000 FT AND WE WERE AT THIS ALT; OVER THE SEAL BEACH VORTAC ON HDG OF 080 DEGS; TALKING WITH SOCAL APCH WHEN I LOOKED UP AND THERE HE WAS -- A B737. YOU COULD READ EVERYTHING ON THE ACFT! ONLY A FEW HUNDRED FT AWAY. I CALLED SOCAL AND THEY WERE NOT TALKING TO HIM. SOCAL SAID HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT 7000 FT. HE WAS NOT. HE MADE NO EFFORT TO CHANGE COURSE. HE WAS SO CLOSE THAT WE FELT HIS WAKE TURB. SINCE SOCAL WAS NOT TALKING TO HIM; WE COULD ONLY SURMISE HE WAS GOING TO LAX. HE WAS APCHING US FROM THE S (OR THE R SIDE OF MY ACFT). I FLY FROM THE COPLT'S SEAT AND MY FRIEND WAS IN THE PLT'S SEAT AND SHE SAW HIM FIRST. HAD HE BEEN JUST A LITTLE LOWER; HE COULD HAVE RUINED MY WHOLE DAY!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.