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Attributes | |
ACN | 660208 |
Time | |
Date | 200506 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3700 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 660208 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas warning - #2 bleed fail other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : rejected takeoff |
Consequence | other |
Factors | |
Maintenance | performance deficiency : fault isolation performance deficiency : repair |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Maintenance Human Performance Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
During the takeoff roll; at about 20 KTS; a bleed 2 valve failure EICAS message appeared on the EICAS. We aborted the takeoff and while clearing the runway; the message disappeared on its own without any crew action. After coming to a stop; we ran the QRH and after landing checklists. I then called dispatch and maintenance control and; after discussing the situation with them; dispatch and I agreed; with the concurrence of maintenance control; that another takeoff attempt was reasonable. We then ran the after start; taxi; and lineup checklists again. We initiated a second takeoff attempt and the same message reappeared at the same time as it had on the previous attempt. We again aborted and after clearing the runway; returned to the gate. The message also disappeared again without any crew action. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this airplane had a history and several components were replaced. A logic card was replaced and a high stage engine bleed valve was replaced previously. Reporter had no idea what the actual fix was.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB ON TKOF ROLL AT 20 KTS HAD EICAS BLEED FAIL WARNING. TURNED OFF RWY. MESSAGE WENT OUT. ADVISED MAINT. RAN UP #2 ENG -- ALL OK. SECOND ATTEMPT AT 20 KTS HAD WARNING AGAIN. RETURNED TO GATE.
Narrative: DURING THE TKOF ROLL; AT ABOUT 20 KTS; A BLEED 2 VALVE FAILURE EICAS MESSAGE APPEARED ON THE EICAS. WE ABORTED THE TKOF AND WHILE CLEARING THE RWY; THE MESSAGE DISAPPEARED ON ITS OWN WITHOUT ANY CREW ACTION. AFTER COMING TO A STOP; WE RAN THE QRH AND AFTER LNDG CHKLISTS. I THEN CALLED DISPATCH AND MAINT CTL AND; AFTER DISCUSSING THE SIT WITH THEM; DISPATCH AND I AGREED; WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF MAINT CTL; THAT ANOTHER TKOF ATTEMPT WAS REASONABLE. WE THEN RAN THE AFTER START; TAXI; AND LINEUP CHKLISTS AGAIN. WE INITIATED A SECOND TKOF ATTEMPT AND THE SAME MESSAGE REAPPEARED AT THE SAME TIME AS IT HAD ON THE PREVIOUS ATTEMPT. WE AGAIN ABORTED AND AFTER CLRING THE RWY; RETURNED TO THE GATE. THE MESSAGE ALSO DISAPPEARED AGAIN WITHOUT ANY CREW ACTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS AIRPLANE HAD A HISTORY AND SEVERAL COMPONENTS WERE REPLACED. A LOGIC CARD WAS REPLACED AND A HIGH STAGE ENG BLEED VALVE WAS REPLACED PREVIOUSLY. RPTR HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE ACTUAL FIX WAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.