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Attributes | |
ACN | 665350 |
Time | |
Date | 200507 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : png.vor |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 32000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Ice |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 665350 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 665349 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Company |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Approaching png VOR with ZHU; FL320; ram air temperature -1 degree; weight approximately 138000 pounds; on top of clouds; mach .76; mach atl. Noticed light airframe vibration like landing light or spoiler panel out. Commented this to first officer. We both did a quick check; gear doors; MCP; spoilers and ice detection rings. Shudder became more pronounced; airspeed declining. I called for engine and airfoil anti-icing. First officer contacted ZHU for FL260. We were cleared and I disconnected autoplt and autothrottles; and began a 1000 FPM descent with mcl selected manually. At FL315; got 1 stall aural and 1 claxon/red light. We never got a speed low or stick shaker. Airspeed now accelerating in a continued controled descent. Could have leveled at FL290 with plenty of airspeed; but continued to FL280 and mach .76 with engine and airfoil anti-ice on. I feel that perhaps we had picked up enough ice in the climb to give a flawed EPR rating; with less thrust than atl would have normally provided. At no time were there visual signs of icing either below the wiper or on the ice detection ring either side!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MD80 UNABLE TO MAINTAIN CRUISE MACH AT FL320. FORCED TO DSND TO AVOID STALL.
Narrative: APCHING PNG VOR WITH ZHU; FL320; RAM AIR TEMP -1 DEG; WT APPROX 138000 LBS; ON TOP OF CLOUDS; MACH .76; MACH ATL. NOTICED LIGHT AIRFRAME VIBRATION LIKE LNDG LIGHT OR SPOILER PANEL OUT. COMMENTED THIS TO FO. WE BOTH DID A QUICK CHK; GEAR DOORS; MCP; SPOILERS AND ICE DETECTION RINGS. SHUDDER BECAME MORE PRONOUNCED; AIRSPD DECLINING. I CALLED FOR ENG AND AIRFOIL ANTI-ICING. FO CONTACTED ZHU FOR FL260. WE WERE CLRED AND I DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND AUTOTHROTTLES; AND BEGAN A 1000 FPM DSCNT WITH MCL SELECTED MANUALLY. AT FL315; GOT 1 STALL AURAL AND 1 CLAXON/RED LIGHT. WE NEVER GOT A SPD LOW OR STICK SHAKER. AIRSPD NOW ACCELERATING IN A CONTINUED CTLED DSCNT. COULD HAVE LEVELED AT FL290 WITH PLENTY OF AIRSPD; BUT CONTINUED TO FL280 AND MACH .76 WITH ENG AND AIRFOIL ANTI-ICE ON. I FEEL THAT PERHAPS WE HAD PICKED UP ENOUGH ICE IN THE CLB TO GIVE A FLAWED EPR RATING; WITH LESS THRUST THAN ATL WOULD HAVE NORMALLY PROVIDED. AT NO TIME WERE THERE VISUAL SIGNS OF ICING EITHER BELOW THE WIPER OR ON THE ICE DETECTION RING EITHER SIDE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.