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A PA31 pilot expresses anger after being restr from a timely approach to ldj because of conflicting ewr traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 673987 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200510 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ldj.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 673987 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was trying to get to linden; nj; from saratoga springs; ny. I was given an ATC clearance on the ground. When I was handed off to new york approach at coate intersection; I descended to 4000 ft on a heading of 190 degrees. After I reached 4000 ft; I was informed that I would not be able to do the approach in to ldj because it was marginal WX and was asked my intentions. I insisted that I needed to go to ldj. I was then told that I would have at least 1 hour holding and was told to turn right to a heading of 020 degrees. I was upset that I would have to hold for 1 hour and since turning left to a heading of 020 was quicker; I turned left. I was wrong to turn left. The reason I was given the hold was that I would be in conflict with the ewr traffic. I asked to be put in the line for ewr. At first; ATC refused; but eventually that is exactly what happened. The only WX was fog and haze over the east coast. I wanted to talk to the supervisor at new york approach on the telephone. I was given the phone number and tried to talk to the supervisor but all I got was that I had no rights to go to ldj as long as there was traffic going to ewr. I finally hung up on the supervisor because of his belligerent attitude. Someone should talk to him about little guys and our rights to fly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA31 PLT EXPRESSES ANGER AFTER BEING RESTR FROM A TIMELY APCH TO LDJ BECAUSE OF CONFLICTING EWR TFC.
Narrative: I WAS TRYING TO GET TO LINDEN; NJ; FROM SARATOGA SPRINGS; NY. I WAS GIVEN AN ATC CLRNC ON THE GND. WHEN I WAS HANDED OFF TO NEW YORK APCH AT COATE INTXN; I DSNDED TO 4000 FT ON A HDG OF 190 DEGS. AFTER I REACHED 4000 FT; I WAS INFORMED THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE APCH IN TO LDJ BECAUSE IT WAS MARGINAL WX AND WAS ASKED MY INTENTIONS. I INSISTED THAT I NEEDED TO GO TO LDJ. I WAS THEN TOLD THAT I WOULD HAVE AT LEAST 1 HR HOLDING AND WAS TOLD TO TURN R TO A HDG OF 020 DEGS. I WAS UPSET THAT I WOULD HAVE TO HOLD FOR 1 HR AND SINCE TURNING L TO A HDG OF 020 WAS QUICKER; I TURNED L. I WAS WRONG TO TURN L. THE REASON I WAS GIVEN THE HOLD WAS THAT I WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE EWR TFC. I ASKED TO BE PUT IN THE LINE FOR EWR. AT FIRST; ATC REFUSED; BUT EVENTUALLY THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THE ONLY WX WAS FOG AND HAZE OVER THE EAST COAST. I WANTED TO TALK TO THE SUPVR AT NEW YORK APCH ON THE TELEPHONE. I WAS GIVEN THE PHONE NUMBER AND TRIED TO TALK TO THE SUPVR BUT ALL I GOT WAS THAT I HAD NO RIGHTS TO GO TO LDJ AS LONG AS THERE WAS TFC GOING TO EWR. I FINALLY HUNG UP ON THE SUPVR BECAUSE OF HIS BELLIGERENT ATTITUDE. SOMEONE SHOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT LITTLE GUYS AND OUR RIGHTS TO FLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.