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Attributes | |
ACN | 676456 |
Time | |
Date | 200510 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fit.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 4 flight time total : 1835 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 675456 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 640 flight time type : 139 |
ASRS Report | 675967 |
Events | |
Anomaly | excursion : runway ground encounters other non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | communication equipment : 01g.fss |
Narrative:
I was giving the PIC a standardization ride. I requested the PIC to perform a short field takeoff. At approximately 100 ft AGL; I pulled the power back and announced; 'simulated engine failure.' PIC pulled the nose up (which I somewhat expected; as I do this maneuver in every check ride I give and all pilots tend to do this). What I was only peripherally aware of is that the PIC had retracted the landing gear; which I realized when I heard the landing gear warning horn. I immediately lowered the gear. However; during this time the aircraft developed a high sink rate. I told the pilot to lower the nose and add power; which the PIC did; but it was 'too little; too late.' we bounced once on the runway; then bounced on one main; then the other; while drifting toward the left side of the runway. During one of the bounces; the aircraft struck a runway light (impact on the left horizontal stabilizer causing 2 small gashes in the skin). I took control of the aircraft and taxied off the runway and to the ramp without further incident. In retrospect; I should have done several things differently: 1) when I realized the gear was up; I should have aborted the maneuver. I think I was focusing on the fact that the PIC had moved his hand from the throttle; allowing me to pull the power. 2) I certainly should have announced 'my plane' and taken the controls much sooner. I treat this as a 'learning' maneuver for my students -- not a 'testing' one. My intent is for the pilot to learn to adjust the pitch to control the airspeed; not automatically pull back on the yoke. Once the PIC had made his mistake of doing that; my point would have been made even if I had taken control at that time. I suppose I was walking the fine line (that instructors do) between giving the other pilot enough 'rope' to correct mistakes on their own versus allowing a dangerous situation to develop. A contributing factor was the fact that during my check pilot check ride last month; the 'check-check-pilot' observed I was taking control (from those being checked) too soon upon mistakes. Perhaps that caused me to wait a little longer to take control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MINOR DAMAGE RESULTS WHEN SIMULATED LOW ALT ENG FAILURE OF C182RG RESULTS IN HARD LNDG.
Narrative: I WAS GIVING THE PIC A STANDARDIZATION RIDE. I REQUESTED THE PIC TO PERFORM A SHORT FIELD TKOF. AT APPROX 100 FT AGL; I PULLED THE PWR BACK AND ANNOUNCED; 'SIMULATED ENG FAILURE.' PIC PULLED THE NOSE UP (WHICH I SOMEWHAT EXPECTED; AS I DO THIS MANEUVER IN EVERY CHK RIDE I GIVE AND ALL PLTS TEND TO DO THIS). WHAT I WAS ONLY PERIPHERALLY AWARE OF IS THAT THE PIC HAD RETRACTED THE LNDG GEAR; WHICH I REALIZED WHEN I HEARD THE LNDG GEAR WARNING HORN. I IMMEDIATELY LOWERED THE GEAR. HOWEVER; DURING THIS TIME THE ACFT DEVELOPED A HIGH SINK RATE. I TOLD THE PLT TO LOWER THE NOSE AND ADD PWR; WHICH THE PIC DID; BUT IT WAS 'TOO LITTLE; TOO LATE.' WE BOUNCED ONCE ON THE RWY; THEN BOUNCED ON ONE MAIN; THEN THE OTHER; WHILE DRIFTING TOWARD THE L SIDE OF THE RWY. DURING ONE OF THE BOUNCES; THE ACFT STRUCK A RWY LIGHT (IMPACT ON THE L HORIZ STABILIZER CAUSING 2 SMALL GASHES IN THE SKIN). I TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT AND TAXIED OFF THE RWY AND TO THE RAMP WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. IN RETROSPECT; I SHOULD HAVE DONE SEVERAL THINGS DIFFERENTLY: 1) WHEN I REALIZED THE GEAR WAS UP; I SHOULD HAVE ABORTED THE MANEUVER. I THINK I WAS FOCUSING ON THE FACT THAT THE PIC HAD MOVED HIS HAND FROM THE THROTTLE; ALLOWING ME TO PULL THE PWR. 2) I CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED 'MY PLANE' AND TAKEN THE CTLS MUCH SOONER. I TREAT THIS AS A 'LEARNING' MANEUVER FOR MY STUDENTS -- NOT A 'TESTING' ONE. MY INTENT IS FOR THE PLT TO LEARN TO ADJUST THE PITCH TO CTL THE AIRSPD; NOT AUTOMATICALLY PULL BACK ON THE YOKE. ONCE THE PIC HAD MADE HIS MISTAKE OF DOING THAT; MY POINT WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE EVEN IF I HAD TAKEN CTL AT THAT TIME. I SUPPOSE I WAS WALKING THE FINE LINE (THAT INSTRUCTORS DO) BTWN GIVING THE OTHER PLT ENOUGH 'ROPE' TO CORRECT MISTAKES ON THEIR OWN VERSUS ALLOWING A DANGEROUS SITUATION TO DEVELOP. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS THE FACT THAT DURING MY CHK PLT CHK RIDE LAST MONTH; THE 'CHK-CHK-PLT' OBSERVED I WAS TAKING CTL (FROM THOSE BEING CHKED) TOO SOON UPON MISTAKES. PERHAPS THAT CAUSED ME TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER TO TAKE CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.