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Attributes | |
ACN | 678528 |
Time | |
Date | 200511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : arr.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon tower : arr.tower tower : tjsj.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR Combined VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 550 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 678528 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Passenger Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I feel that I have violated the far regarding flight into known icing. I was flying from spi to arrival. When I left spi; conditions were VFR but rather turbulent. At the request of the other passenger; who has a private pilot's license; we climbed above a scattered layer of clouds. There we encountered smoother conditions. As we proceeded towards spi; the clouds were beginning to form a ceiling. We soon found ourselves with an overcast layer below us. When we arrived near aurora; I filed an IFR flight plan and was vectored to the VOR 33 approach at arrival; by approach. I flew the approach until breaking out of the clouds; where I canceled my IFR clearance. We never picked up ice at any time throughout the flight. I had received a detailed WX briefing which contained an airmet for possible icing conditions; but was unsure of the FAA's interpretation of what 'known icing' was. After the flight; I did some research and realized that I had in fact flown into 'known icing.' the other passenger during the flight was my boss; we routinely fly together on business trips. He does not have an instrument rating. He suggested to fly above the clouds so it would be less turbulent. I did not really want to fly above them; because I knew we would have to descend before there was a ceiling. I knew there was the possibility of icing with the freezing temperatures and precipitation (clouds). I was hesitant to continue flying toward arrival and wanted to find a hole to descend through. My boss insisted that we would not pick up any ice and that we should just descend on an IFR clearance. Without completely understanding the legalities of flight into known icing; I decided to descend through the clouds under IFR. I was PIC throughout the entire flight and should have never listened to the other passenger. I displayed poor decision making sills with my decision to fly through the clouds. A safer alternative would have been to try and find VFR conditions for a descent. Since the flight; I have showed my boss several articles pertaining to known icing and made it clear that I would not fly into any conditions that could be considered known icing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VFR C172 PLT ABOVE AN OVCST FILES IFR TO DSND FOR HIS DEST BUT FLIES THROUGH WHAT HE CONSIDERS KNOWN ICING CONDITIONS.
Narrative: I FEEL THAT I HAVE VIOLATED THE FAR REGARDING FLT INTO KNOWN ICING. I WAS FLYING FROM SPI TO ARR. WHEN I LEFT SPI; CONDITIONS WERE VFR BUT RATHER TURBULENT. AT THE REQUEST OF THE OTHER PAX; WHO HAS A PVT PLT'S LICENSE; WE CLBED ABOVE A SCATTERED LAYER OF CLOUDS. THERE WE ENCOUNTERED SMOOTHER CONDITIONS. AS WE PROCEEDED TOWARDS SPI; THE CLOUDS WERE BEGINNING TO FORM A CEILING. WE SOON FOUND OURSELVES WITH AN OVCST LAYER BELOW US. WHEN WE ARRIVED NEAR AURORA; I FILED AN IFR FLT PLAN AND WAS VECTORED TO THE VOR 33 APCH AT ARR; BY APCH. I FLEW THE APCH UNTIL BREAKING OUT OF THE CLOUDS; WHERE I CANCELED MY IFR CLRNC. WE NEVER PICKED UP ICE AT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE FLT. I HAD RECEIVED A DETAILED WX BRIEFING WHICH CONTAINED AN AIRMET FOR POSSIBLE ICING CONDITIONS; BUT WAS UNSURE OF THE FAA'S INTERP OF WHAT 'KNOWN ICING' WAS. AFTER THE FLT; I DID SOME RESEARCH AND REALIZED THAT I HAD IN FACT FLOWN INTO 'KNOWN ICING.' THE OTHER PAX DURING THE FLT WAS MY BOSS; WE ROUTINELY FLY TOGETHER ON BUSINESS TRIPS. HE DOES NOT HAVE AN INST RATING. HE SUGGESTED TO FLY ABOVE THE CLOUDS SO IT WOULD BE LESS TURBULENT. I DID NOT REALLY WANT TO FLY ABOVE THEM; BECAUSE I KNEW WE WOULD HAVE TO DSND BEFORE THERE WAS A CEILING. I KNEW THERE WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF ICING WITH THE FREEZING TEMPS AND PRECIP (CLOUDS). I WAS HESITANT TO CONTINUE FLYING TOWARD ARR AND WANTED TO FIND A HOLE TO DSND THROUGH. MY BOSS INSISTED THAT WE WOULD NOT PICK UP ANY ICE AND THAT WE SHOULD JUST DSND ON AN IFR CLRNC. WITHOUT COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDING THE LEGALITIES OF FLT INTO KNOWN ICING; I DECIDED TO DSND THROUGH THE CLOUDS UNDER IFR. I WAS PIC THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FLT AND SHOULD HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO THE OTHER PAX. I DISPLAYED POOR DECISION MAKING SILLS WITH MY DECISION TO FLY THROUGH THE CLOUDS. A SAFER ALTERNATIVE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO TRY AND FIND VFR CONDITIONS FOR A DSCNT. SINCE THE FLT; I HAVE SHOWED MY BOSS SEVERAL ARTICLES PERTAINING TO KNOWN ICING AND MADE IT CLR THAT I WOULD NOT FLY INTO ANY CONDITIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED KNOWN ICING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.