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Attributes | |
ACN | 678910 |
Time | |
Date | 200511 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 24r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 678910 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed missed approach |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I elected to hand fly the CAT I ILS to runway 24R with a 4000 ft touchdown zone RVR. Approach was normal and stabilized. At 200 ft AGL; captain called 'decision ht' and PNF reported 'approach lights; continue.' I looked up; saw nothing recognizable in a quick glance through the fog; and continued down to 100 ft above touchdown zone on the ILS; noting that I had gone 1 DOT left and started to correct. At next minimums call; first officer called 'runway in sight; come right.' I was looking at the 1000 ft aim point makers on the runway; but they were about 30 degrees right. At first; I attempted to continue to land; but seeing the angle and our altitude; I instead elected a missed approach. (Probably what I should have done originally.) we held as RVR went below legal minimums; and made it in on next approach when visibility went back to 4000 ft RVR. Contributing factors: hand flying vice autoplt approach; and late recognition of runway touchdown zone. Would've almost been better for person looking out to say 'I have controls' and do landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E120 FLT CREW HAND FLYING LOW MINIMUMS APCH TO LAX GET UNSTABLE AT DECISION HT AND GO AROUND.
Narrative: I ELECTED TO HAND FLY THE CAT I ILS TO RWY 24R WITH A 4000 FT TOUCHDOWN ZONE RVR. APCH WAS NORMAL AND STABILIZED. AT 200 FT AGL; CAPT CALLED 'DECISION HT' AND PNF RPTED 'APCH LIGHTS; CONTINUE.' I LOOKED UP; SAW NOTHING RECOGNIZABLE IN A QUICK GLANCE THROUGH THE FOG; AND CONTINUED DOWN TO 100 FT ABOVE TOUCHDOWN ZONE ON THE ILS; NOTING THAT I HAD GONE 1 DOT L AND STARTED TO CORRECT. AT NEXT MINIMUMS CALL; FO CALLED 'RWY IN SIGHT; COME R.' I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1000 FT AIM POINT MAKERS ON THE RWY; BUT THEY WERE ABOUT 30 DEGS R. AT FIRST; I ATTEMPTED TO CONTINUE TO LAND; BUT SEEING THE ANGLE AND OUR ALT; I INSTEAD ELECTED A MISSED APCH. (PROBABLY WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE ORIGINALLY.) WE HELD AS RVR WENT BELOW LEGAL MINIMUMS; AND MADE IT IN ON NEXT APCH WHEN VISIBILITY WENT BACK TO 4000 FT RVR. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: HAND FLYING VICE AUTOPLT APCH; AND LATE RECOGNITION OF RWY TOUCHDOWN ZONE. WOULD'VE ALMOST BEEN BETTER FOR PERSON LOOKING OUT TO SAY 'I HAVE CTLS' AND DO LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.