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Attributes | |
ACN | 682476 |
Time | |
Date | 200512 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zid.artcc |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl single value : 33700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | IAI1124/1124A/Westwind |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 682476 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a passenger part 135 trip during departure climb phase of flight; I (the PF) and trip assigned PIC was looking at our destination non-controled airport data/information. While at FL310(?) we were given an 'expect' to climb clearance to FL340. The PNF answered FL340. I heard the sic say FL340 and set number in the altitude alerter and commenced a climb to FL340. I believe I heard the controller say expect; but when I saw the PNF set the altitude; I confirmed FL340 with him and he acknowledged. ATC asked if we were climbing and the sic replied yes we cleared to FL340. ATC said it was an expected altitude; and continue at a good rate. Upon reaching the altitude; we were given a frequency change and I told the sic/PNF to ask if there was a problem -- no; but it was close. I feel that it is the inability of the sic to hear radio calls. The last time we flew the exact situation happened. We were given an expect altitude; but the sic set the altitude in the alerter. We are both PIC's in the aircraft. From now on I am going to verify the altitude with him before he sets it in the alerter. He is in his late 50's and had been a construction worker prior to his flying career; which I think has led to his inability to hear.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A WESTWIND 24 FO SET AN EXPECTED CLB TO ALT IN ALT ALERTER. CAPT CONFIRMED AND BEGAN CLBING. ATC QUESTIONED CREW AND TOLD THEM TO EXPEDITE TO EXPECTED ALT.
Narrative: ON A PAX PART 135 TRIP DURING DEP CLB PHASE OF FLT; I (THE PF) AND TRIP ASSIGNED PIC WAS LOOKING AT OUR DEST NON-CTLED ARPT DATA/INFO. WHILE AT FL310(?) WE WERE GIVEN AN 'EXPECT' TO CLB CLRNC TO FL340. THE PNF ANSWERED FL340. I HEARD THE SIC SAY FL340 AND SET NUMBER IN THE ALT ALERTER AND COMMENCED A CLB TO FL340. I BELIEVE I HEARD THE CTLR SAY EXPECT; BUT WHEN I SAW THE PNF SET THE ALT; I CONFIRMED FL340 WITH HIM AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED. ATC ASKED IF WE WERE CLBING AND THE SIC REPLIED YES WE CLRED TO FL340. ATC SAID IT WAS AN EXPECTED ALT; AND CONTINUE AT A GOOD RATE. UPON REACHING THE ALT; WE WERE GIVEN A FREQ CHANGE AND I TOLD THE SIC/PNF TO ASK IF THERE WAS A PROB -- NO; BUT IT WAS CLOSE. I FEEL THAT IT IS THE INABILITY OF THE SIC TO HEAR RADIO CALLS. THE LAST TIME WE FLEW THE EXACT SITUATION HAPPENED. WE WERE GIVEN AN EXPECT ALT; BUT THE SIC SET THE ALT IN THE ALERTER. WE ARE BOTH PIC'S IN THE ACFT. FROM NOW ON I AM GOING TO VERIFY THE ALT WITH HIM BEFORE HE SETS IT IN THE ALERTER. HE IS IN HIS LATE 50'S AND HAD BEEN A CONSTRUCTION WORKER PRIOR TO HIS FLYING CAREER; WHICH I THINK HAS LED TO HIS INABILITY TO HEAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.