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Attributes | |
ACN | 682535 |
Time | |
Date | 200512 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : nip.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 80 |
ASRS Report | 682535 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Ferry flight from nip (jacksonville NAS)to ZZZ at XA10. Cleared to 'taxi to runway 27' by ground control. Exited the ramp by building #1002; taxiing north to make a right turn to the east on taxiway a. Crossed over both helipads and approached runway 32. With clearance to taxi to runway 27; both copilot and I verbalized to each other that we were cleared to cross runway 32 en route to runway 27. After crossing hold short line for runway 32 by about 20 ft; the tower controller advised us that the hold short line that we had just crossed was also the hold short point for runway 27. We then realized that there wasn't another hold short line for runway 27 on the east side of runway 32. After stopping; tower then cleared us for takeoff on runway 27. No conflict created with any other aircraft. We did not taxi onto any part of what I considered was runway 27; only the approach end of runway 32. Taxiway/runway signs and markings were sparse and unclr; as can be expected on most military bases. Ground controller offered no guidance other than 'taxi to runway 27.' we were using copies of airfield charts obtained from nip base operations because our commercial chart books do not cover nip. This was not a contributing factor. We should have requested progressive taxi instructions due to being unfamiliar with the airfield; however; the taxi route from chocks to runway seemed relatively simple and I didn't think it was needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-800 AT NIP TAXIING TO RWY 27 CROSSED RWYS 27 AND 32 HOLD SHORT LINE NOT REALIZING IT SERVED BOTH RWYS.
Narrative: FERRY FLT FROM NIP (JACKSONVILLE NAS)TO ZZZ AT XA10. CLRED TO 'TAXI TO RWY 27' BY GND CTL. EXITED THE RAMP BY BUILDING #1002; TAXIING N TO MAKE A R TURN TO THE E ON TXWY A. CROSSED OVER BOTH HELIPADS AND APCHED RWY 32. WITH CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 27; BOTH COPLT AND I VERBALIZED TO EACH OTHER THAT WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 32 ENRTE TO RWY 27. AFTER XING HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 32 BY ABOUT 20 FT; THE TWR CTLR ADVISED US THAT THE HOLD SHORT LINE THAT WE HAD JUST CROSSED WAS ALSO THE HOLD SHORT POINT FOR RWY 27. WE THEN REALIZED THAT THERE WASN'T ANOTHER HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 27 ON THE E SIDE OF RWY 32. AFTER STOPPING; TWR THEN CLRED US FOR TKOF ON RWY 27. NO CONFLICT CREATED WITH ANY OTHER ACFT. WE DID NOT TAXI ONTO ANY PART OF WHAT I CONSIDERED WAS RWY 27; ONLY THE APCH END OF RWY 32. TXWY/RWY SIGNS AND MARKINGS WERE SPARSE AND UNCLR; AS CAN BE EXPECTED ON MOST MIL BASES. GND CTLR OFFERED NO GUIDANCE OTHER THAN 'TAXI TO RWY 27.' WE WERE USING COPIES OF AIRFIELD CHARTS OBTAINED FROM NIP BASE OPS BECAUSE OUR COMMERCIAL CHART BOOKS DO NOT COVER NIP. THIS WAS NOT A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. WE SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED PROGRESSIVE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS DUE TO BEING UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AIRFIELD; HOWEVER; THE TAXI RTE FROM CHOCKS TO RWY SEEMED RELATIVELY SIMPLE AND I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.