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Attributes | |
ACN | 682539 |
Time | |
Date | 200512 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zla.artcc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 30300 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 682539 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 682538 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
At FL310 over dag; we encountered moderate turbulence with up- and downdrafts which caused pitch and roll oscillations with accompanying erratic power fluctuations. The aircraft began descending and even after manual intervention we were unable to hold altitude. Descending through FL305; captain advised ATC that we were 'unable to maintain rvsm.' at approximately FL303 (700 ft low); ATC gave us a descent to FL270. Turbulence decreased as we descended and the remainder of the flight was uneventful. We were operating well below our optimum altitude of FL370 at the time. Several other aircraft were talking to ATC about the turbulence but were told that all altitudes were bad. The captain had the flight attendants take their seats and carts were stowed prior to us encountering this area of concentrated turbulence. We were prepared for the turbulence in advance; operating at turbulence penetration speed with plenty of margin for buffet; flight attendants seated; etc. What I could have done better as the PF was to be quicker to toggle off the autoplt and more aggressive in pushing the power up in an attempt to minimize altitude lost. I did not expect the downdraft to last so long and figured that I would make matters worse by overdoing things in the next updraft. In hindsight; I would be more proactive; considering the reduced separation of today's rvsm environment. By the way; there were no other aircraft in our vicinity at the time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767-300 OVER DAG AT FL310 WAS UNABLE TO MAINTAIN RVSM ALT SEPARATION BECAUSE OF MODERATE TURB. ATC ASSIGNED A LOWER ALT.
Narrative: AT FL310 OVER DAG; WE ENCOUNTERED MODERATE TURB WITH UP- AND DOWNDRAFTS WHICH CAUSED PITCH AND ROLL OSCILLATIONS WITH ACCOMPANYING ERRATIC PWR FLUCTUATIONS. THE ACFT BEGAN DSNDING AND EVEN AFTER MANUAL INTERVENTION WE WERE UNABLE TO HOLD ALT. DSNDING THROUGH FL305; CAPT ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE 'UNABLE TO MAINTAIN RVSM.' AT APPROX FL303 (700 FT LOW); ATC GAVE US A DSCNT TO FL270. TURB DECREASED AS WE DSNDED AND THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. WE WERE OPERATING WELL BELOW OUR OPTIMUM ALT OF FL370 AT THE TIME. SEVERAL OTHER ACFT WERE TALKING TO ATC ABOUT THE TURB BUT WERE TOLD THAT ALL ALTS WERE BAD. THE CAPT HAD THE FLT ATTENDANTS TAKE THEIR SEATS AND CARTS WERE STOWED PRIOR TO US ENCOUNTERING THIS AREA OF CONCENTRATED TURB. WE WERE PREPARED FOR THE TURB IN ADVANCE; OPERATING AT TURB PENETRATION SPD WITH PLENTY OF MARGIN FOR BUFFET; FLT ATTENDANTS SEATED; ETC. WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE BETTER AS THE PF WAS TO BE QUICKER TO TOGGLE OFF THE AUTOPLT AND MORE AGGRESSIVE IN PUSHING THE PWR UP IN AN ATTEMPT TO MINIMIZE ALT LOST. I DID NOT EXPECT THE DOWNDRAFT TO LAST SO LONG AND FIGURED THAT I WOULD MAKE MATTERS WORSE BY OVERDOING THINGS IN THE NEXT UPDRAFT. IN HINDSIGHT; I WOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE; CONSIDERING THE REDUCED SEPARATION OF TODAY'S RVSM ENVIRONMENT. BY THE WAY; THERE WERE NO OTHER ACFT IN OUR VICINITY AT THE TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.