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Attributes | |
ACN | 682659 |
Time | |
Date | 200601 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hnl.airport |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hnl.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 11850 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 682659 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14520 flight time type : 2391 |
ASRS Report | 682843 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : gear warning system other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Slept until XA00 in ZZZZ. Walked; ate; took couple-hour nap until wake-up. Flew through night with no rest as my break had continuous moderate turbulence. Fatigued; which is average for this flight. Conducted brief at top of descent; including flaps 30 degrees; autobrakes 3 degrees; missed; etc. Just before 1500 ft on visual; we overheard ATC scolding another air carrier for taxiing on runway 8L instead of taxiway. Then tower cleared aircraft for base; right in front of our nose for runway 4L. Somehow being tired and distraction; I forgot gear. I asked for full flaps and horn beeped. Immediately I recognized I had forgotten the gear and called for gear extension. I asked captain if he'd like a go around; but by this time everything had 'come together' and looked good; so we landed. I could easily have made taxiway K; but popped off brakes and coasted to end of runway 4R. We wound up 'walking away from another one' which we do after every flight. Possibly no one would ever know if I didn't write this report. In my 30TH yr of flying; this is quite disturbing to me. Not something I ever want to see! Had we all not been so fatigued and distraction; I do not think I would have forgotten the gear; and I do not think both the captain and bunkie would have let me go so far without lowering the gear either! Even though he didn't say anything; I strongly believe the bunkie added an extra layer of safety that would have prevented us from landing with the gear up. Lesson learned is that even with easily over 100 yrs flying experience in the cockpit; mistakes can be made; and we need to be ever vigilant. I will do my best to never let this happen again. Supplemental information from acn 682843: late in lowering gear and completing checklist. Very tired; all-night flight from ZZZ-hnl. Unable to get nap at hotel prior to departure because maids make excessive noise in halls and adjacent rooms. Distraction approaching FAF by tower admonishing another airline flight for taxiing onto a runway without those instructions -- several very caustic xmissions by tower to the aircraft. Then tower told us to look for traffic crossing between us and the runways from east to west that would be landing on runway 4L; ie; their base turn was across the final approach course to runway 4R. It took us awhile to spot this traffic. These distrs with being tired allowed us to be late in final confign. No mandatory go around automated notifications were sounded or displayed; however; fom guidance of gear down and final check accomplished by FAF or 1500 ft was violated. We deemed continuing for landing was a safer course of action than to go around with tiredness and high terrain to the north and east of airport. Landing made in normal touchdown zone; on speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B777 INTL CREW LOWERED THE LNDG GEAR LATE ON APCH AFTER AN ALL-NIGHT FLT WITH POOR REST ON THE PRECEDING DAY.
Narrative: SLEPT UNTIL XA00 IN ZZZZ. WALKED; ATE; TOOK COUPLE-HR NAP UNTIL WAKE-UP. FLEW THROUGH NIGHT WITH NO REST AS MY BREAK HAD CONTINUOUS MODERATE TURB. FATIGUED; WHICH IS AVERAGE FOR THIS FLT. CONDUCTED BRIEF AT TOP OF DSCNT; INCLUDING FLAPS 30 DEGS; AUTOBRAKES 3 DEGS; MISSED; ETC. JUST BEFORE 1500 FT ON VISUAL; WE OVERHEARD ATC SCOLDING ANOTHER ACR FOR TAXIING ON RWY 8L INSTEAD OF TXWY. THEN TWR CLRED ACFT FOR BASE; RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR NOSE FOR RWY 4L. SOMEHOW BEING TIRED AND DISTR; I FORGOT GEAR. I ASKED FOR FULL FLAPS AND HORN BEEPED. IMMEDIATELY I RECOGNIZED I HAD FORGOTTEN THE GEAR AND CALLED FOR GEAR EXTENSION. I ASKED CAPT IF HE'D LIKE A GAR; BUT BY THIS TIME EVERYTHING HAD 'COME TOGETHER' AND LOOKED GOOD; SO WE LANDED. I COULD EASILY HAVE MADE TXWY K; BUT POPPED OFF BRAKES AND COASTED TO END OF RWY 4R. WE WOUND UP 'WALKING AWAY FROM ANOTHER ONE' WHICH WE DO AFTER EVERY FLT. POSSIBLY NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW IF I DIDN'T WRITE THIS RPT. IN MY 30TH YR OF FLYING; THIS IS QUITE DISTURBING TO ME. NOT SOMETHING I EVER WANT TO SEE! HAD WE ALL NOT BEEN SO FATIGUED AND DISTR; I DO NOT THINK I WOULD HAVE FORGOTTEN THE GEAR; AND I DO NOT THINK BOTH THE CAPT AND BUNKIE WOULD HAVE LET ME GO SO FAR WITHOUT LOWERING THE GEAR EITHER! EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING; I STRONGLY BELIEVE THE BUNKIE ADDED AN EXTRA LAYER OF SAFETY THAT WOULD HAVE PREVENTED US FROM LNDG WITH THE GEAR UP. LESSON LEARNED IS THAT EVEN WITH EASILY OVER 100 YRS FLYING EXPERIENCE IN THE COCKPIT; MISTAKES CAN BE MADE; AND WE NEED TO BE EVER VIGILANT. I WILL DO MY BEST TO NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 682843: LATE IN LOWERING GEAR AND COMPLETING CHKLIST. VERY TIRED; ALL-NIGHT FLT FROM ZZZ-HNL. UNABLE TO GET NAP AT HOTEL PRIOR TO DEP BECAUSE MAIDS MAKE EXCESSIVE NOISE IN HALLS AND ADJACENT ROOMS. DISTR APCHING FAF BY TWR ADMONISHING ANOTHER AIRLINE FLT FOR TAXIING ONTO A RWY WITHOUT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS -- SEVERAL VERY CAUSTIC XMISSIONS BY TWR TO THE ACFT. THEN TWR TOLD US TO LOOK FOR TFC XING BTWN US AND THE RWYS FROM E TO W THAT WOULD BE LNDG ON RWY 4L; IE; THEIR BASE TURN WAS ACROSS THE FINAL APCH COURSE TO RWY 4R. IT TOOK US AWHILE TO SPOT THIS TFC. THESE DISTRS WITH BEING TIRED ALLOWED US TO BE LATE IN FINAL CONFIGN. NO MANDATORY GAR AUTOMATED NOTIFICATIONS WERE SOUNDED OR DISPLAYED; HOWEVER; FOM GUIDANCE OF GEAR DOWN AND FINAL CHK ACCOMPLISHED BY FAF OR 1500 FT WAS VIOLATED. WE DEEMED CONTINUING FOR LNDG WAS A SAFER COURSE OF ACTION THAN TO GO AROUND WITH TIREDNESS AND HIGH TERRAIN TO THE N AND E OF ARPT. LNDG MADE IN NORMAL TOUCHDOWN ZONE; ON SPD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.