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Attributes | |
ACN | 683699 |
Time | |
Date | 200501 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : triss |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 683699 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 683450 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We thoroughly checked and rechked the route and TRISS2 departure out of dfw for runway 18L. We got a runway change to runway 17R and input that into the FMS. We confirmed the runway and first departure point with queue and internally confirmed the next 3 points on the departure with the new runway in the box. Center called us as we were passing approximately 4 miles north of shero. We double checked the FMS and we were heading to matie which was on our route of flight. We discovered that when we switched runways from 18L to runway 17R; the FMS dropped the last 2 points on the TRISS2 departure. We subsequently cleared to txk and rest of the route unchanged. Flight progressed to destination uneventfully.supplemental information from acn 683450: I was never instructed to rebuild a departure when the runway is changed -- only to change the runway. I had to learn the hard way how to reselect a runway. It should be taught and/or the software in the FMS needs to be changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW FAIL TO REPROGRAM TRANSITION PORTION OF THE TRISS RNAV DEP FROM DFW WHEN ATC CHANGES RWY PRIOR TO TKOF.
Narrative: WE THOROUGHLY CHKED AND RECHKED THE RTE AND TRISS2 DEP OUT OF DFW FOR RWY 18L. WE GOT A RWY CHANGE TO RWY 17R AND INPUT THAT INTO THE FMS. WE CONFIRMED THE RWY AND FIRST DEP POINT WITH QUEUE AND INTERNALLY CONFIRMED THE NEXT 3 POINTS ON THE DEP WITH THE NEW RWY IN THE BOX. CTR CALLED US AS WE WERE PASSING APPROX 4 MILES N OF SHERO. WE DOUBLE CHKED THE FMS AND WE WERE HEADING TO MATIE WHICH WAS ON OUR RTE OF FLT. WE DISCOVERED THAT WHEN WE SWITCHED RWYS FROM 18L TO RWY 17R; THE FMS DROPPED THE LAST 2 POINTS ON THE TRISS2 DEP. WE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED TO TXK AND REST OF THE RTE UNCHANGED. FLT PROGRESSED TO DEST UNEVENTFULLY.SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 683450: I WAS NEVER INSTRUCTED TO REBUILD A DEP WHEN THE RWY IS CHANGED -- ONLY TO CHANGE THE RWY. I HAD TO LEARN THE HARD WAY HOW TO RESELECT A RWY. IT SHOULD BE TAUGHT AND/OR THE SOFTWARE IN THE FMS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.