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Attributes | |
ACN | 685525 |
Time | |
Date | 200601 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hpn.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : mia.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 700 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 685525 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We departed runway 34 at hpn. Complied with the SID. Upon contacting new york departure; we were told to turn to a heading of 360 degrees. As we rolled out on that heading at 3000 ft; I observed 2 VFR targets on TCAS. The first target at 3400 ft at our 12:30 O'clock position on southwesterly heading at 2 1/2 mi. That aircraft appeared to be descending. The other VFR target was at our 10 O'clock position at 3000 ft and 2 mi. The ATC controller then told us to turn left to a heading of 290 degrees. Just as he spoke; we immediately got an RA on the TCAS. In my judgement with the fast closure rate of both aircraft; turning to that heading would have put our aircraft at great risk of a midair. The controller was very busy so there was no time to query him. Instead; we turned right to get around both aircraft. Just as we turned; the controller either saw what we did or realized the situation and told us to turn to a heading of 070 degrees. We were able to get around both VFR aircraft and continue our climb safely. I firmly believe that if I would have followed the controller's initial instructions; it would have put our aircraft in grave danger; and that's why I turned the other way.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ700 DEP FROM HPN AT 3000 FT WITH N90 TURNED IN AN OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM THE ATC ASSIGNED HEADING BECAUSE OF A TCAS RA WITH 2 VFR ACFT.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED RWY 34 AT HPN. COMPLIED WITH THE SID. UPON CONTACTING NEW YORK DEP; WE WERE TOLD TO TURN TO A HDG OF 360 DEGS. AS WE ROLLED OUT ON THAT HDG AT 3000 FT; I OBSERVED 2 VFR TARGETS ON TCAS. THE FIRST TARGET AT 3400 FT AT OUR 12:30 O'CLOCK POS ON SOUTHWESTERLY HDG AT 2 1/2 MI. THAT ACFT APPEARED TO BE DSNDING. THE OTHER VFR TARGET WAS AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS AT 3000 FT AND 2 MI. THE ATC CTLR THEN TOLD US TO TURN L TO A HDG OF 290 DEGS. JUST AS HE SPOKE; WE IMMEDIATELY GOT AN RA ON THE TCAS. IN MY JUDGEMENT WITH THE FAST CLOSURE RATE OF BOTH ACFT; TURNING TO THAT HDG WOULD HAVE PUT OUR ACFT AT GREAT RISK OF A MIDAIR. THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY SO THERE WAS NO TIME TO QUERY HIM. INSTEAD; WE TURNED R TO GET AROUND BOTH ACFT. JUST AS WE TURNED; THE CTLR EITHER SAW WHAT WE DID OR REALIZED THE SITUATION AND TOLD US TO TURN TO A HDG OF 070 DEGS. WE WERE ABLE TO GET AROUND BOTH VFR ACFT AND CONTINUE OUR CLB SAFELY. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT IF I WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE CTLR'S INITIAL INSTRUCTIONS; IT WOULD HAVE PUT OUR ACFT IN GRAVE DANGER; AND THAT'S WHY I TURNED THE OTHER WAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.