<< >> NASA ASRS Report 685871, January 2006

Piaggio avanti flight crew; after an en route stop for fuel and while refueling; encounters freezing rain. Ice forms on all surfaces. The flight crew has line service use warm water to remove ice.

Attributes
ACN	685871
Time
Date	200601
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ash.airport
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Weather Elements	Ice Fog Snow
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turboprop Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : parked ground other : deice
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	other personnel
ASRS Report	685871
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other other : 1
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Weather
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

The flight crew wanted to depart immediately; however; the freezing rain (reported on ATIS) had covered all flight surfaces with ice. The pilots insisted that line service carry buckets of warm water and pour them onto the aircraft. This method is unknown to me and I am filling out this report to cover myself from any wrong doing in case of an incident. I did express concern about this method; however; the pilots insisted that it was accepted practice. After covering the forward wing; wing; and stabilizer with warm water; the aircraft proceeded to take off.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PIAGGIO AVANTI FLT CREW; AFTER AN ENRTE STOP FOR FUEL AND WHILE REFUELING; ENCOUNTERS FREEZING RAIN. ICE FORMS ON ALL SURFACES. THE FLT CREW HAS LINE SVC USE WARM WATER TO REMOVE ICE.

Narrative: THE FLT CREW WANTED TO DEPART IMMEDIATELY; HOWEVER; THE FREEZING RAIN (RPTED ON ATIS) HAD COVERED ALL FLT SURFACES WITH ICE. THE PLTS INSISTED THAT LINE SVC CARRY BUCKETS OF WARM WATER AND POUR THEM ONTO THE ACFT. THIS METHOD IS UNKNOWN TO ME AND I AM FILLING OUT THIS RPT TO COVER MYSELF FROM ANY WRONG DOING IN CASE OF AN INCIDENT. I DID EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THIS METHOD; HOWEVER; THE PLTS INSISTED THAT IT WAS ACCEPTED PRACTICE. AFTER COVERING THE FORWARD WING; WING; AND STABILIZER WITH WARM WATER; THE ACFT PROCEEDED TO TAKE OFF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.