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Attributes | |
ACN | 685930 |
Time | |
Date | 200602 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : bluegrasss |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 5500 |
ASRS Report | 685930 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 685931 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Taking off runway 18L at cvg; tower assigned us a heading of 210 degrees after departure. We were originally given the bluegrass 7 departure. After a couple of minutes; tower handed us off to cgv departure control. They told us to fly; 'direct to downs intersection and the bluegrass 7.' we had originally been given the iiu transition prior to being given the 210 degree heading by tower. We did not find downs intersection on the bluegrass 7 iiu transition. We did find downs on V4 between iiu and pxv. We both assumed this was the intersection they were talking about since it was on our route. After a couple of minutes; departure asked if we were flying direct to downs. We told them yes; but they showed us flying off course. We told them we were flying to downs intersection on V4 as previously assigned. Departure responded by saying that they had meant douns intersection on the bluegrass 7; not downs on V4. Douns was never part of our flight plan. Iiu was the transition. Trfwa was the transition for douns; but it doesn't go anywhere after that; and was also not part of our flight plan. After straightening out the misunderstanding with the controller; they cleared us direct to iiu as filed. In conclusion; I think one of the intersection names should be changed because they sound and read almost identical and they are too close together in airspace system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ200 CREW ON THE CVG BLUEGRASSS 7 DEP WAS CLRED TO DOUNS BUT HEADED TO DOWNS ON V4. SIMILAR SOUNDING FIXES WITH DIFFERENT SPELLINGS CAUSED CONFUSION.
Narrative: TAKING OFF RWY 18L AT CVG; TWR ASSIGNED US A HDG OF 210 DEGS AFTER DEP. WE WERE ORIGINALLY GIVEN THE BLUEGRASS 7 DEP. AFTER A COUPLE OF MINUTES; TWR HANDED US OFF TO CGV DEP CTL. THEY TOLD US TO FLY; 'DIRECT TO DOWNS INTXN AND THE BLUEGRASS 7.' WE HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN GIVEN THE IIU TRANSITION PRIOR TO BEING GIVEN THE 210 DEG HDG BY TWR. WE DID NOT FIND DOWNS INTXN ON THE BLUEGRASS 7 IIU TRANSITION. WE DID FIND DOWNS ON V4 BETWEEN IIU AND PXV. WE BOTH ASSUMED THIS WAS THE INTXN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SINCE IT WAS ON OUR RTE. AFTER A COUPLE OF MINUTES; DEP ASKED IF WE WERE FLYING DIRECT TO DOWNS. WE TOLD THEM YES; BUT THEY SHOWED US FLYING OFF COURSE. WE TOLD THEM WE WERE FLYING TO DOWNS INTXN ON V4 AS PREVIOUSLY ASSIGNED. DEP RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THEY HAD MEANT DOUNS INTXN ON THE BLUEGRASS 7; NOT DOWNS ON V4. DOUNS WAS NEVER PART OF OUR FLT PLAN. IIU WAS THE TRANSITION. TRFWA WAS THE TRANSITION FOR DOUNS; BUT IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE AFTER THAT; AND WAS ALSO NOT PART OF OUR FLT PLAN. AFTER STRAIGHTENING OUT THE MISUNDERSTANDING WITH THE CTLR; THEY CLRED US DIRECT TO IIU AS FILED. IN CONCLUSION; I THINK ONE OF THE INTXN NAMES SHOULD BE CHANGED BECAUSE THEY SOUND AND READ ALMOST IDENTICAL AND THEY ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER IN AIRSPACE SYSTEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.