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Attributes | |
ACN | 688164 |
Time | |
Date | 200602 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 174 flight time total : 12750 flight time type : 2993 |
ASRS Report | 688164 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On taxi out; we were switched from ground to tower; 132.22 no mention was made to 'monitor' frequency. We initially heard communications on 132.22; but then there was dead silence on the frequency for several mins. Concerned we might have a radio issue; we queried 'radio check' and got no answer. We tuned our second VHF to 132.22 to ensure the radio was working. By now; other airlines were also querying tower; as the frequency was unusually silent. Finally; after several mins; tower responded rather irritably to another airline that we were all supposed to 'monitor the frequency;' and he was very busy. An aircraft in front of us crossed runway 33L; and yet we heard no clearance from 132.22 for him to do so. Another airline; again; queried tower and said; 'is anybody there?' tower came back; even more irritated; and once again admonished us to monitor. This airline replied; 'well; we saw a guy cross runway 33L and we didn't hear the clearance; so we were wondering if we were on the right frequency.' tower replied; 'he got impatient and switched frequencys before I told him to; that's why.' the dead silence when one is holding short to cross an active runway leads to that creeping feeling you forgot to switch frequencys; or somehow your radio died; or tower had a power outage.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW WHILE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY BELIEVE THEY HAVE LOST COMS AND QUERY THE TWR.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT; WE WERE SWITCHED FROM GND TO TWR; 132.22 NO MENTION WAS MADE TO 'MONITOR' FREQ. WE INITIALLY HEARD COMS ON 132.22; BUT THEN THERE WAS DEAD SILENCE ON THE FREQ FOR SEVERAL MINS. CONCERNED WE MIGHT HAVE A RADIO ISSUE; WE QUERIED 'RADIO CHK' AND GOT NO ANSWER. WE TUNED OUR SECOND VHF TO 132.22 TO ENSURE THE RADIO WAS WORKING. BY NOW; OTHER AIRLINES WERE ALSO QUERYING TWR; AS THE FREQ WAS UNUSUALLY SILENT. FINALLY; AFTER SEVERAL MINS; TWR RESPONDED RATHER IRRITABLY TO ANOTHER AIRLINE THAT WE WERE ALL SUPPOSED TO 'MONITOR THE FREQ;' AND HE WAS VERY BUSY. AN ACFT IN FRONT OF US CROSSED RWY 33L; AND YET WE HEARD NO CLRNC FROM 132.22 FOR HIM TO DO SO. ANOTHER AIRLINE; AGAIN; QUERIED TWR AND SAID; 'IS ANYBODY THERE?' TWR CAME BACK; EVEN MORE IRRITATED; AND ONCE AGAIN ADMONISHED US TO MONITOR. THIS AIRLINE REPLIED; 'WELL; WE SAW A GUY CROSS RWY 33L AND WE DIDN'T HEAR THE CLRNC; SO WE WERE WONDERING IF WE WERE ON THE RIGHT FREQ.' TWR REPLIED; 'HE GOT IMPATIENT AND SWITCHED FREQS BEFORE I TOLD HIM TO; THAT'S WHY.' THE DEAD SILENCE WHEN ONE IS HOLDING SHORT TO CROSS AN ACTIVE RWY LEADS TO THAT CREEPING FEELING YOU FORGOT TO SWITCH FREQS; OR SOMEHOW YOUR RADIO DIED; OR TWR HAD A PWR OUTAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.