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Test flight pilot expressed concern regarding confused coordination efforts between the various airspace controling agencies.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 693790 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200604 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | special use airspace : r2515.restricted |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 36600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Experimental |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 1986 flight time type : 38 |
| ASRS Report | 693790 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure FAA |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was flying an experimental aircraft with a beechcraft starship as a photo and safety chase within the R-2515 restr area. The race track designed to accomplish this mission straddles both the airspace held by R-2515 which is controled by sport and los angeles center airspace to the south of R-2515. I was on an IFR flight plan while outside of the R-2515 airspace on a pointout from sport which controls the R-2515 airspace. I am sending this report to clear up any misunderstanding surrounding this flight. Due to the complexity of the mission and the number of entities (commercial and government) involved; we spent quite some effort getting everyone briefed about the test activity and our special requirements. It was not enough. Despite our efforts and the fact that this was the 6TH time we conducted this mission; there was still a communications breakdown. In the future; we will focus additional efforts at getting all the involved parties into 1 room for a detailed; face-to-face mission briefing. We can all be reminded that just because this is the 6TH time; it doesn't mean it's becoming routine. Flight test is serious business.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TEST FLT PLT EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING CONFUSED COORD EFFORTS BTWN THE VARIOUS AIRSPACE CTLING AGENCIES.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AN EXPERIMENTAL ACFT WITH A BEECHCRAFT STARSHIP AS A PHOTO AND SAFETY CHASE WITHIN THE R-2515 RESTR AREA. THE RACE TRACK DESIGNED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS MISSION STRADDLES BOTH THE AIRSPACE HELD BY R-2515 WHICH IS CTLED BY SPORT AND LOS ANGELES CTR AIRSPACE TO THE S OF R-2515. I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN WHILE OUTSIDE OF THE R-2515 AIRSPACE ON A POINTOUT FROM SPORT WHICH CTLS THE R-2515 AIRSPACE. I AM SENDING THIS RPT TO CLR UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDING SURROUNDING THIS FLT. DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE MISSION AND THE NUMBER OF ENTITIES (COMMERCIAL AND GOV) INVOLVED; WE SPENT QUITE SOME EFFORT GETTING EVERYONE BRIEFED ABOUT THE TEST ACTIVITY AND OUR SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS. IT WAS NOT ENOUGH. DESPITE OUR EFFORTS AND THE FACT THAT THIS WAS THE 6TH TIME WE CONDUCTED THIS MISSION; THERE WAS STILL A COMS BREAKDOWN. IN THE FUTURE; WE WILL FOCUS ADDITIONAL EFFORTS AT GETTING ALL THE INVOLVED PARTIES INTO 1 ROOM FOR A DETAILED; FACE-TO-FACE MISSION BRIEFING. WE CAN ALL BE REMINDED THAT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE 6TH TIME; IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S BECOMING ROUTINE. FLT TEST IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.