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Attributes | |
ACN | 694090 |
Time | |
Date | 200604 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fch.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fat.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna Stationair/Turbo Stationair 6 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : other published ifr departure |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 670 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 694090 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication FAA ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Chart | airport : fch.airport |
Publication | Obstacle Dep Proc |
Narrative:
On departure from fch on an IFR flight plan; I was cleared to iza via the fch obstacle departure procedure; direct prb VOR; then as filed to iza. The obstacle departure procedure on page 23-1 of the commercial charts for fch reads as follows: 'runways 30L/right climb on 345 degree heading; runways 12R/left climb on 165 degree heading to 1000 ft before proceeding on course.' I took off on runway 12R; checked in with approach; climbed to somewhat higher than 1000 ft and turned on course to prb (approximately 197 degrees). Shortly thereafter; approach contacted me about my turn on course and said that I should not have made the turn until instructed. I quickly reviewed the procedure and responded that it said that I should turn on course when climbing through 1000 ft. The controller said that I was wrong; that the turn after 1000 ft applied only to departures from runway 30L/right and that I should review the procedure again when on the ground. I apologized and said that I would do so. I have now reviewed the procedure in the commercial chart and it clearly says that; when departing runway 12R; a turn on course should be made when climbing through 1000 ft. I compared the commercial chart to the government chart and there is an obvious discrepancy. The government chart reads as follows: 'runways 12L; 12R; climb heading 165 degrees. Runways 30L; 30R; climb heading 345 degrees to 1000 ft before proceeding on course.' I called the commercial chart supplier to point out the significant discrepancy. The commercial chart supplier representative said that it appears that the commercial chart is incorrect and has been for a long time. He subsequently sent me an email stating that the commercial chart is correct and the government chart is incorrect.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C206 PLT RPTS DISCREPANCY BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND GOV DEP PROCS FOR FCH CONCERNING REQUIRED ALT FOR ON COURSE HDG.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM FCH ON AN IFR FLT PLAN; I WAS CLRED TO IZA VIA THE FCH OBSTACLE DEP PROC; DIRECT PRB VOR; THEN AS FILED TO IZA. THE OBSTACLE DEP PROC ON PAGE 23-1 OF THE COMMERCIAL CHARTS FOR FCH READS AS FOLLOWS: 'RWYS 30L/R CLB ON 345 DEG HDG; RWYS 12R/L CLB ON 165 DEG HDG TO 1000 FT BEFORE PROCEEDING ON COURSE.' I TOOK OFF ON RWY 12R; CHKED IN WITH APCH; CLBED TO SOMEWHAT HIGHER THAN 1000 FT AND TURNED ON COURSE TO PRB (APPROX 197 DEGS). SHORTLY THEREAFTER; APCH CONTACTED ME ABOUT MY TURN ON COURSE AND SAID THAT I SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE TURN UNTIL INSTRUCTED. I QUICKLY REVIEWED THE PROC AND RESPONDED THAT IT SAID THAT I SHOULD TURN ON COURSE WHEN CLBING THROUGH 1000 FT. THE CTLR SAID THAT I WAS WRONG; THAT THE TURN AFTER 1000 FT APPLIED ONLY TO DEPS FROM RWY 30L/R AND THAT I SHOULD REVIEW THE PROC AGAIN WHEN ON THE GND. I APOLOGIZED AND SAID THAT I WOULD DO SO. I HAVE NOW REVIEWED THE PROC IN THE COMMERCIAL CHART AND IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT; WHEN DEPARTING RWY 12R; A TURN ON COURSE SHOULD BE MADE WHEN CLBING THROUGH 1000 FT. I COMPARED THE COMMERCIAL CHART TO THE GOV CHART AND THERE IS AN OBVIOUS DISCREPANCY. THE GOV CHART READS AS FOLLOWS: 'RWYS 12L; 12R; CLB HDG 165 DEGS. RWYS 30L; 30R; CLB HDG 345 DEGS TO 1000 FT BEFORE PROCEEDING ON COURSE.' I CALLED THE COMMERCIAL CHART SUPPLIER TO POINT OUT THE SIGNIFICANT DISCREPANCY. THE COMMERCIAL CHART SUPPLIER REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT IT APPEARS THAT THE COMMERCIAL CHART IS INCORRECT AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME. HE SUBSEQUENTLY SENT ME AN EMAIL STATING THAT THE COMMERCIAL CHART IS CORRECT AND THE GOV CHART IS INCORRECT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.