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Attributes | |
ACN | 694536 |
Time | |
Date | 200604 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 694536 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : airspd indicator other flight crewa other flight crewb other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overrode automation |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Captain was using the 'expedite' mode to descend to 11000 ft (?) cleared to 8000 ft. Approaching 11000 ft at over 320 KIAS it was apparent the flight director was not commanding a deceleration. I said; 'speed.' captain replied; 'it's automatic.' I repeated louder; 'speed!' he repeated that it was slowing automatically. At 11000 ft with a huge descent rate and a whole bunch of KTS I shouted 'speed!' and he finally disconnected the autoplt and scooped it out at around 9600 ft at 330 KIAS or so. The rest of the approach and landing were uneventful. I'm guessing it captured 11000 ft way early due to the rate of descent; then when I set 8000 ft it reverted like it should to present vertical speed; and thus; wasn't slowing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLT CREW DURING DSCNT EXCEEDS THE 250 KT RULE BELOW 10000 FT.
Narrative: CAPT WAS USING THE 'EXPEDITE' MODE TO DSND TO 11000 FT (?) CLRED TO 8000 FT. APCHING 11000 FT AT OVER 320 KIAS IT WAS APPARENT THE FLT DIRECTOR WAS NOT COMMANDING A DECELERATION. I SAID; 'SPD.' CAPT REPLIED; 'IT'S AUTOMATIC.' I REPEATED LOUDER; 'SPD!' HE REPEATED THAT IT WAS SLOWING AUTOMATICALLY. AT 11000 FT WITH A HUGE DSCNT RATE AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF KTS I SHOUTED 'SPD!' AND HE FINALLY DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT AND SCOOPED IT OUT AT AROUND 9600 FT AT 330 KIAS OR SO. THE REST OF THE APCH AND LNDG WERE UNEVENTFUL. I'M GUESSING IT CAPTURED 11000 FT WAY EARLY DUE TO THE RATE OF DSCNT; THEN WHEN I SET 8000 FT IT REVERTED LIKE IT SHOULD TO PRESENT VERT SPD; AND THUS; WASN'T SLOWING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.