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Attributes | |
ACN | 696270 |
Time | |
Date | 200605 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 2000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller limited radar : 13.5 controller radar : 2.5 controller time certified in position1 : 6 controller time certified in position2 : 4 |
ASRS Report | 696270 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert controller : issued advisory |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Aircraft X F2TH departing on shoreline departure runway 28R versus aircraft Y C172 on traffic watch. I issued aircraft Y at or below 1500 ft and remain east of highway 101 from northwest of the airport; transitioning sebound. When aircraft X began climb out; I instructed aircraft Y to maintain visual separation. At that point; aircraft Y was descending through 1200 ft to a new altitude restr at or below 1000 ft; and aircraft X was climbing through 1200 ft. They were 2 mi apart. The F2TH; after advised C172 was maintaining visual separation; complained the C172 was in 'about the worst possible place he could be.' 2 things occurred: 1) the C172 did not do as instructed -- east of highway 101. They were more or less over the highway. I amended instructions to 1 mi east of highway 101; at or below 1000 ft when I saw it was going to be closer than I liked. 2) the F2TH was climbing in a less than expected performance; and when advised 'traffic 2 mi north descending through your altitude has you in sight maintaining visual separation;' did not sound satisfied. I have seen many times closer transition versus 28 departure/go around situations. I felt the operation was very safe; with my amended instructions. I advised aircraft X that we (sfo tower) tried to eliminate these transitions; but pilot group went above us and we (controllers) were told we could not blanket ignore transitions. If there is going to be an aircraft collision at sfo it will be a transition and a departure/go around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SFO LCL CTLR EXPERIENCES CONFLICT AT 1200 FT WHEN IFR RWY 28R DEP CONFLICTED WITH VFR TFC WATCH FLT; VISUAL SEPARATION IN USE.
Narrative: ACFT X F2TH DEPARTING ON SHORELINE DEP RWY 28R VERSUS ACFT Y C172 ON TFC WATCH. I ISSUED ACFT Y AT OR BELOW 1500 FT AND REMAIN E OF HWY 101 FROM NW OF THE ARPT; TRANSITIONING SEBOUND. WHEN ACFT X BEGAN CLBOUT; I INSTRUCTED ACFT Y TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION. AT THAT POINT; ACFT Y WAS DSNDING THROUGH 1200 FT TO A NEW ALT RESTR AT OR BELOW 1000 FT; AND ACFT X WAS CLBING THROUGH 1200 FT. THEY WERE 2 MI APART. THE F2TH; AFTER ADVISED C172 WAS MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION; COMPLAINED THE C172 WAS IN 'ABOUT THE WORST POSSIBLE PLACE HE COULD BE.' 2 THINGS OCCURRED: 1) THE C172 DID NOT DO AS INSTRUCTED -- E OF HWY 101. THEY WERE MORE OR LESS OVER THE HWY. I AMENDED INSTRUCTIONS TO 1 MI E OF HWY 101; AT OR BELOW 1000 FT WHEN I SAW IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSER THAN I LIKED. 2) THE F2TH WAS CLBING IN A LESS THAN EXPECTED PERFORMANCE; AND WHEN ADVISED 'TFC 2 MI N DSNDING THROUGH YOUR ALT HAS YOU IN SIGHT MAINTAINING VISUAL SEPARATION;' DID NOT SOUND SATISFIED. I HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES CLOSER TRANSITION VERSUS 28 DEP/GAR SITUATIONS. I FELT THE OP WAS VERY SAFE; WITH MY AMENDED INSTRUCTIONS. I ADVISED ACFT X THAT WE (SFO TWR) TRIED TO ELIMINATE THESE TRANSITIONS; BUT PLT GROUP WENT ABOVE US AND WE (CTLRS) WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT BLANKET IGNORE TRANSITIONS. IF THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ACFT COLLISION AT SFO IT WILL BE A TRANSITION AND A DEP/GAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.