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Attributes | |
ACN | 696860 |
Time | |
Date | 200605 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : iad.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | landing : hold short landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ric.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 696860 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 696507 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 34 and rolling to the end; ATC issued a hold short of runway 2 clearance. By the time we read back our clearance we were past the hold short line; with the main gear sitting over the hold short line. There was landing traffic on runway 2; but safety was not compromised. On the airport diagram there is a depicted 'hot spot.' had we briefed this particular 'hot spot' it could have helped. In the future it's very important to include 'hot spots' in my briefings; so that I'm better prepared to respond to hold short instructions. Supplemental information from acn 696507: the timing of the clearance; the position of the hold short line; and the low lighting conditions all contributed to our encroachment. Runways which have hold short lines (normally associated with lahso clrncs) usually have lighting to alert approaching aircraft in sufficient time to allow for deceleration from landing speeds. Also; a lahso clearance gives pilots time to plan touchdown and rollout deceleration. A hold short clearance given during landing rollout does not allow adequate time to meet clearance requirements when the hold line is on the runway. (Please see the richmond; va; airport diagram.) I recommend richmond ATC adopts lahso procedures and upgrade signage and lighting to meet lahso standards.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A319 FLT CREW ON LNDG ROLL RWY 34 AT RIC WAS ASKED BY THE TWR TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2. THEY WERE UNABLE TO COMPLY.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 34 AND ROLLING TO THE END; ATC ISSUED A HOLD SHORT OF RWY 2 CLRNC. BY THE TIME WE READ BACK OUR CLRNC WE WERE PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE; WITH THE MAIN GEAR SITTING OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THERE WAS LNDG TFC ON RWY 2; BUT SAFETY WAS NOT COMPROMISED. ON THE ARPT DIAGRAM THERE IS A DEPICTED 'HOT SPOT.' HAD WE BRIEFED THIS PARTICULAR 'HOT SPOT' IT COULD HAVE HELPED. IN THE FUTURE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE 'HOT SPOTS' IN MY BRIEFINGS; SO THAT I'M BETTER PREPARED TO RESPOND TO HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 696507: THE TIMING OF THE CLRNC; THE POS OF THE HOLD SHORT LINE; AND THE LOW LIGHTING CONDITIONS ALL CONTRIBUTED TO OUR ENCROACHMENT. RWYS WHICH HAVE HOLD SHORT LINES (NORMALLY ASSOCIATED WITH LAHSO CLRNCS) USUALLY HAVE LIGHTING TO ALERT APCHING ACFT IN SUFFICIENT TIME TO ALLOW FOR DECELERATION FROM LNDG SPDS. ALSO; A LAHSO CLRNC GIVES PLTS TIME TO PLAN TOUCHDOWN AND ROLLOUT DECELERATION. A HOLD SHORT CLRNC GIVEN DURING LNDG ROLLOUT DOES NOT ALLOW ADEQUATE TIME TO MEET CLRNC REQUIREMENTS WHEN THE HOLD LINE IS ON THE RWY. (PLEASE SEE THE RICHMOND; VA; ARPT DIAGRAM.) I RECOMMEND RICHMOND ATC ADOPTS LAHSO PROCS AND UPGRADE SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING TO MEET LAHSO STANDARDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.