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Attributes | |
ACN | 697922 |
Time | |
Date | 200605 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tjsj.airport |
State Reference | PR |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : tjsj.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : tjsj.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 697922 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 697921 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was first officer. I was acting as PNF; the captain was the PF. Runway 8 in tjsj was in use for takeoffs and lndgs. There was a significant right crosswind at the time; and several landing aircraft were observed with substantial wind correction on final and on landing. The B757 immediately ahead of us was cleared into position. I heard ATC tell the aircraft that there was a heavy aircraft on an 8 mi final. The B757 was cleared for takeoff. ATC then cleared us to position and hold on runway 8. We ran the takeoff checklist down to 'bleeds/high flow -- off' and kept the bleeds on. When ATC cleared us for takeoff; I immediately finished the flow; read back the takeoff clearance; and verbally finished the checklist. The captain had started his timer when the B757 had started their takeoff roll. From the beginning of their takeoff roll to the time that ATC cleared us for takeoff was 55 seconds. After approximately 5-10 seconds; the captain had not advanced the power levers. Just as I was about to prompt the captain; ATC canceled our takeoff clearance and told us to immediately turn right off the runway at intersection S-2. I read back the clearance and we complied with ATC. We were then instructed to do a 180 degree turn and hold short of runway 8 at intersection S-2; and subsequently given takeoff clearance several mins later. After departure; we were instructed to call tower when we landed because they 'had a question' for us. After reaching cruise; the captain and I discussed why he had held off on advancing the power. With the right crosswind; a large aircraft taking off before us (although I do not remember if the B757 was designated as 'heavy' at the time); and the exiting bumpy conditions; the captain was concerned about the wake turbulence/vortex from the departing B757. In retrospect; I completely agreed with the captain's concern about the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATR42 FLT CREW IS GIVEN TKOF CLRNC BEHIND A HVY JET PRIOR TO THE REQUIRED WAIT PERIOD FOR WAKE TURB.
Narrative: I WAS FO. I WAS ACTING AS PNF; THE CAPT WAS THE PF. RWY 8 IN TJSJ WAS IN USE FOR TKOFS AND LNDGS. THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT R XWIND AT THE TIME; AND SEVERAL LNDG ACFT WERE OBSERVED WITH SUBSTANTIAL WIND CORRECTION ON FINAL AND ON LNDG. THE B757 IMMEDIATELY AHEAD OF US WAS CLRED INTO POS. I HEARD ATC TELL THE ACFT THAT THERE WAS A HVY ACFT ON AN 8 MI FINAL. THE B757 WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. ATC THEN CLRED US TO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 8. WE RAN THE TKOF CHKLIST DOWN TO 'BLEEDS/HIGH FLOW -- OFF' AND KEPT THE BLEEDS ON. WHEN ATC CLRED US FOR TKOF; I IMMEDIATELY FINISHED THE FLOW; READ BACK THE TKOF CLRNC; AND VERBALLY FINISHED THE CHKLIST. THE CAPT HAD STARTED HIS TIMER WHEN THE B757 HAD STARTED THEIR TKOF ROLL. FROM THE BEGINNING OF THEIR TKOF ROLL TO THE TIME THAT ATC CLRED US FOR TKOF WAS 55 SECONDS. AFTER APPROX 5-10 SECONDS; THE CAPT HAD NOT ADVANCED THE PWR LEVERS. JUST AS I WAS ABOUT TO PROMPT THE CAPT; ATC CANCELED OUR TKOF CLRNC AND TOLD US TO IMMEDIATELY TURN R OFF THE RWY AT INTXN S-2. I READ BACK THE CLRNC AND WE COMPLIED WITH ATC. WE WERE THEN INSTRUCTED TO DO A 180 DEG TURN AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 8 AT INTXN S-2; AND SUBSEQUENTLY GIVEN TKOF CLRNC SEVERAL MINS LATER. AFTER DEP; WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CALL TWR WHEN WE LANDED BECAUSE THEY 'HAD A QUESTION' FOR US. AFTER REACHING CRUISE; THE CAPT AND I DISCUSSED WHY HE HAD HELD OFF ON ADVANCING THE PWR. WITH THE R XWIND; A LARGE ACFT TAKING OFF BEFORE US (ALTHOUGH I DO NOT REMEMBER IF THE B757 WAS DESIGNATED AS 'HVY' AT THE TIME); AND THE EXITING BUMPY CONDITIONS; THE CAPT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAKE TURB/VORTEX FROM THE DEPARTING B757. IN RETROSPECT; I COMPLETELY AGREED WITH THE CAPT'S CONCERN ABOUT THE SITUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.