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Attributes | |
ACN | 704096 |
Time | |
Date | 200607 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dbq.vortac |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 32200 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 704096 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The event started with a call from ZAU to turn to a heading of 360 degrees from our current heading of approximately 95 degrees. This of course got my attention and I immediately started a 25 degree angle of bank turn with the autoplt engaged. About 20 degrees into the turn the TCAS called out the 'traffic-traffic alert.' I and the first officer wasted about 3-4 seconds looking at the middle radar display before realizing that this was a former air carrier a with the smaller display on each of our instrument panels. At that point there was an aircraft at 2 O'clock position 400 ft high at approximately 6-7 NM approaching us (a DC9). No sooner did the 'traffic' warning go off; the TCAS called out 'descend' with a rate of 1800-2200 FPM. I disengaged the autoplt and started a descent as my first officer told center that we were responding to an RA. No sooner did I get established in the descent when the TCAS called out 'monitor vertical speed' called for a 0-400 FPM rate of climb. I stopped my descent at about FL322 and saw a second jet (also a DC9) come out off my lower left side which is evidently what caused the TCAS to stop my descent for the first conflict. This jet appeared to be less than 1000 ft clearance and possibly in the 500-700 ft range. This all took place in the period of 15-20 seconds maximum. After clear of both conflicts we reported our altitude (approximately FL322) and got clearance to climb back up to our altitude of FL330. The first officer queried center on what transpired and they responded that the jet that was above us at our 2 O'clock position had not leveled at his assigned altitude. We continued on to ord with no further incident and there were no injuries to our cabin crew or passenger. Review of my actions: generally I felt that I did a good job but I wasted precious seconds looking at the wrong display from many years of flying the standard MD80 aircraft with the center mounted TCAS. I should have reported a near mid-air with center. I guess I didn't because center said it wasn't our fault and we were relieved that the event ended successfully. Review of the TCAS equipment: worked great by keeping us clear of 2 conflicts. The former air carrier a displays (in my opinion) are greatly inferior to the standard displays in size; location and range. It is my recommendation that all MD80 aircraft should be equipped with the standard; center mounted 40 NM displays so as to avoid a potentially catastrophic incident where the pilot did not have the luxury of 3-4 seconds trying to find the display.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD83 CAPT RPTS TCAS RA WITH 2 DC9'S IN ZAU AIRSPACE.
Narrative: THE EVENT STARTED WITH A CALL FROM ZAU TO TURN TO A HDG OF 360 DEGS FROM OUR CURRENT HDG OF APPROX 95 DEGS. THIS OF COURSE GOT MY ATTN AND I IMMEDIATELY STARTED A 25 DEG ANGLE OF BANK TURN WITH THE AUTOPLT ENGAGED. ABOUT 20 DEGS INTO THE TURN THE TCAS CALLED OUT THE 'TFC-TFC ALERT.' I AND THE FO WASTED ABOUT 3-4 SECONDS LOOKING AT THE MIDDLE RADAR DISPLAY BEFORE REALIZING THAT THIS WAS A FORMER ACR A WITH THE SMALLER DISPLAY ON EACH OF OUR INST PANELS. AT THAT POINT THERE WAS AN ACFT AT 2 O'CLOCK POS 400 FT HIGH AT APPROX 6-7 NM APCHING US (A DC9). NO SOONER DID THE 'TFC' WARNING GO OFF; THE TCAS CALLED OUT 'DSND' WITH A RATE OF 1800-2200 FPM. I DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT AND STARTED A DSCNT AS MY FO TOLD CTR THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO AN RA. NO SOONER DID I GET ESTABLISHED IN THE DSCNT WHEN THE TCAS CALLED OUT 'MONITOR VERT SPD' CALLED FOR A 0-400 FPM RATE OF CLB. I STOPPED MY DSCNT AT ABOUT FL322 AND SAW A SECOND JET (ALSO A DC9) COME OUT OFF MY LOWER L SIDE WHICH IS EVIDENTLY WHAT CAUSED THE TCAS TO STOP MY DSCNT FOR THE FIRST CONFLICT. THIS JET APPEARED TO BE LESS THAN 1000 FT CLRNC AND POSSIBLY IN THE 500-700 FT RANGE. THIS ALL TOOK PLACE IN THE PERIOD OF 15-20 SECONDS MAX. AFTER CLR OF BOTH CONFLICTS WE RPTED OUR ALT (APPROX FL322) AND GOT CLRNC TO CLB BACK UP TO OUR ALT OF FL330. THE FO QUERIED CTR ON WHAT TRANSPIRED AND THEY RESPONDED THAT THE JET THAT WAS ABOVE US AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS HAD NOT LEVELED AT HIS ASSIGNED ALT. WE CONTINUED ON TO ORD WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT AND THERE WERE NO INJURIES TO OUR CABIN CREW OR PAX. REVIEW OF MY ACTIONS: GENERALLY I FELT THAT I DID A GOOD JOB BUT I WASTED PRECIOUS SECONDS LOOKING AT THE WRONG DISPLAY FROM MANY YEARS OF FLYING THE STANDARD MD80 ACFT WITH THE CTR MOUNTED TCAS. I SHOULD HAVE RPTED A NEAR MID-AIR WITH CTR. I GUESS I DIDN'T BECAUSE CTR SAID IT WASN'T OUR FAULT AND WE WERE RELIEVED THAT THE EVENT ENDED SUCCESSFULLY. REVIEW OF THE TCAS EQUIP: WORKED GREAT BY KEEPING US CLR OF 2 CONFLICTS. THE FORMER ACR A DISPLAYS (IN MY OPINION) ARE GREATLY INFERIOR TO THE STANDARD DISPLAYS IN SIZE; LOCATION AND RANGE. IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL MD80 ACFT SHOULD BE EQUIPPED WITH THE STANDARD; CTR MOUNTED 40 NM DISPLAYS SO AS TO AVOID A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC INCIDENT WHERE THE PLT DID NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF 3-4 SECONDS TRYING TO FIND THE DISPLAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.