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MD80 captain is concerned with timing of takeoff clearance issued to another aircraft for the same runway at dfw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 704460 |
| Time | |
| Date | 2006074 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : gsp.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll ground : position and hold |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 704460 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff on runway 18L at dfw from taxiway a. During the takeoff roll (prior to V1 and prior to liftoff) the tower cleared another aircraft for takeoff on our runway. Had we aborted the takeoff we would have been either struck or overflown by the aircraft taking off behind us. This is not even remotely safe.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CAPT IS CONCERNED WITH TIMING OF TKOF CLRNC ISSUED TO ANOTHER ACFT FOR THE SAME RWY AT DFW.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 18L AT DFW FROM TXWY A. DURING THE TKOF ROLL (PRIOR TO V1 AND PRIOR TO LIFTOFF) THE TWR CLRED ANOTHER ACFT FOR TKOF ON OUR RWY. HAD WE ABORTED THE TKOF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN EITHER STRUCK OR OVERFLOWN BY THE ACFT TAKING OFF BEHIND US. THIS IS NOT EVEN REMOTELY SAFE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.