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MD80 on approach to dfw runway 18R described potential conflict with same type aircraft that was vectored in front for same runway. Pilot deviation recorded.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 706287 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : tevon |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : glenrose.8 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 17700 flight time type : 3751 |
| ASRS Report | 706287 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 800 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While being vectored for landing dfw runway 18R. At approximately 4000 ft MSL after several vectoring turns while first officer was flying aircraft autoplt off. TA alert was sounded. We saw MD80 aircraft. We were slowed from approximately 200 KTS to 170 KTS. The MD80 was placed in front of us on approach to dfw. We made all turns in timely manner. I do not know how MD80 got so close. We were running the landing checklist at the time. I did not feel MD80 aircraft get too close to cause concern. Safety organization called me and left a message they had been contacted. I received no cause for alarm or concern from ATC. I filed a NASA report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 ON APCH TO DFW RWY 18R DESCRIBED POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH SAME TYPE ACFT THAT WAS VECTORED IN FRONT FOR SAME RWY. PLTDEV RECORDED.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR LNDG DFW RWY 18R. AT APPROX 4000 FT MSL AFTER SEVERAL VECTORING TURNS WHILE FO WAS FLYING ACFT AUTOPLT OFF. TA ALERT WAS SOUNDED. WE SAW MD80 ACFT. WE WERE SLOWED FROM APPROX 200 KTS TO 170 KTS. THE MD80 WAS PLACED IN FRONT OF US ON APCH TO DFW. WE MADE ALL TURNS IN TIMELY MANNER. I DO NOT KNOW HOW MD80 GOT SO CLOSE. WE WERE RUNNING THE LNDG CHKLIST AT THE TIME. I DID NOT FEEL MD80 ACFT GET TOO CLOSE TO CAUSE CONCERN. SAFETY ORGANIZATION CALLED ME AND LEFT A MESSAGE THEY HAD BEEN CONTACTED. I RECEIVED NO CAUSE FOR ALARM OR CONCERN FROM ATC. I FILED A NASA RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.