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Attributes | |
ACN | 709370 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ttpp.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 709370 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : taxiway |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance Aircraft Airport |
Situations | |
Airport | markings : ttpp.airport procedure or policy : ttpp.airport |
Chart | airport : ttpp.airport |
Narrative:
Flight departing ttpp was cleared to taxi to runway 10. We both had our 10-9 airport page out. There is no mention anywhere on the chart that we could not taxi from the ramp on the north side of the airport to use the full length of runway 10. There should be a sign and a note on the 10-9 page that taxiway a; west of A-1 is unusable to jet aircraft. There is a small diagram at the bottom of page 10-7Z that is a little clearer; but no note referencing the portion of the taxiway closed to jet only aircraft; but open to some aircraft. No signs either. Never did get a clear answer from ground as to who could use it and who couldn't; and there had been an incident last week. We couldn't find any NOTAMS referencing the taxiway was closed to anyone. The first officer and I had only been into ttpp once before. We had a tug come out and push us back to taxiway A1; instead of doing a 180 degree turn as tower requested. From there we taxied across the runway to use the full length; even though we had a tps for the intersection runway 10X.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that a large yellow X was painted on the taxiway but the crew did not interpret that as meaning the taxiway was closed because normally an X is used to indicate a closed runway. Neither crew member recalls any clearance beyond taxi to runway 10 via taxiway A1. They do not remember a runway crossing restriction. The only reason the crew can think of for the jet taxi restriction through that area is that the ramp at the approach end of runway 10 has light aircraft and helicopters parked on it and those aircraft may be damaged by jet blast as a jet aircraft turns the corner to runway 10.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CAPT NOTES THAT A JET TAXI RESTRICTION EXISTS ON TTPP'S TXWY WEST OF TXWY A1 BUT THAT RESTRICTION IS NOT ON THE COMMERCIAL ARPT DIAGRAM.
Narrative: FLT DEPARTING TTPP WAS CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 10. WE BOTH HAD OUR 10-9 ARPT PAGE OUT. THERE IS NO MENTION ANYWHERE ON THE CHART THAT WE COULD NOT TAXI FROM THE RAMP ON THE N SIDE OF THE ARPT TO USE THE FULL LENGTH OF RWY 10. THERE SHOULD BE A SIGN AND A NOTE ON THE 10-9 PAGE THAT TXWY A; W OF A-1 IS UNUSABLE TO JET ACFT. THERE IS A SMALL DIAGRAM AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 10-7Z THAT IS A LITTLE CLEARER; BUT NO NOTE REFERENCING THE PORTION OF THE TXWY CLOSED TO JET ONLY ACFT; BUT OPEN TO SOME ACFT. NO SIGNS EITHER. NEVER DID GET A CLEAR ANSWER FROM GND AS TO WHO COULD USE IT AND WHO COULDN'T; AND THERE HAD BEEN AN INCIDENT LAST WEEK. WE COULDN'T FIND ANY NOTAMS REFERENCING THE TXWY WAS CLOSED TO ANYONE. THE FO AND I HAD ONLY BEEN INTO TTPP ONCE BEFORE. WE HAD A TUG COME OUT AND PUSH US BACK TO TXWY A1; INSTEAD OF DOING A 180 DEG TURN AS TWR REQUESTED. FROM THERE WE TAXIED ACROSS THE RWY TO USE THE FULL LENGTH; EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A TPS FOR THE INTXN RWY 10X.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT A LARGE YELLOW X WAS PAINTED ON THE TXWY BUT THE CREW DID NOT INTERPRET THAT AS MEANING THE TXWY WAS CLOSED BECAUSE NORMALLY AN X IS USED TO INDICATE A CLOSED RWY. NEITHER CREW MEMBER RECALLS ANY CLRNC BEYOND TAXI TO RWY 10 VIA TXWY A1. THEY DO NOT REMEMBER A RWY CROSSING RESTRICTION. THE ONLY REASON THE CREW CAN THINK OF FOR THE JET TAXI RESTRICTION THROUGH THAT AREA IS THAT THE RAMP AT THE APCH END OF RWY 10 HAS LIGHT ACFT AND HELIS PARKED ON IT AND THOSE ACFT MAY BE DAMAGED BY JET BLAST AS A JET ACFT TURNS THE CORNER TO RWY 10.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.