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Attributes | |
ACN | 711770 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fdk.airport |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl single value : 2900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cardinal 177/177RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 1190 flight time type : 410 |
ASRS Report | 711770 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 5000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were proceeding VFR from ZZZ to fdk and P40 was expanded and we were using GPS; VOR and visual navigation to remain clear. As we approached fdk from the northeast; I looked down and saw a large helicopter perhaps 500 ft below us. I was the PNF; but was nonetheless looking for traffic. The helicopter seemed to come out of nowhere. We orbited over fdk to pick up an ADIZ clearance to gai. The controller first asked us to squawk identify on 1200 and after about a min gave us our ADIZ squawk. No mention was made of any separation and airspace violation and we proceeded normally to gai. No evasive action was necessary and to the best of our knowledge; and supported by GPS; VOR and visual landmarks. We remained clear of restr or prohibited airspace. Nonetheless; coming close to a helicopter is very disconcerting. I will look more carefully for traffic in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C177 NEAR FDK CAME WITHIN 500 FT OF A HELI. THE RPTR WAS NOT NEAR P40 ACCORDING TO HIS NAV EQUIP.
Narrative: WE WERE PROCEEDING VFR FROM ZZZ TO FDK AND P40 WAS EXPANDED AND WE WERE USING GPS; VOR AND VISUAL NAV TO REMAIN CLR. AS WE APCHED FDK FROM THE NE; I LOOKED DOWN AND SAW A LARGE HELI PERHAPS 500 FT BELOW US. I WAS THE PNF; BUT WAS NONETHELESS LOOKING FOR TFC. THE HELI SEEMED TO COME OUT OF NOWHERE. WE ORBITED OVER FDK TO PICK UP AN ADIZ CLRNC TO GAI. THE CTLR FIRST ASKED US TO SQUAWK IDENT ON 1200 AND AFTER ABOUT A MIN GAVE US OUR ADIZ SQUAWK. NO MENTION WAS MADE OF ANY SEPARATION AND AIRSPACE VIOLATION AND WE PROCEEDED NORMALLY TO GAI. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS NECESSARY AND TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE; AND SUPPORTED BY GPS; VOR AND VISUAL LANDMARKS. WE REMAINED CLR OF RESTR OR PROHIBITED AIRSPACE. NONETHELESS; COMING CLOSE TO A HELI IS VERY DISCONCERTING. I WILL LOOK MORE CAREFULLY FOR TFC IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.