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Attributes | |
ACN | 711775 |
Time | |
Date | 200609 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lru.airport |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | agl single value : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | Other |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 711775 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was wbound from wichita falls to lru. At about 10 mi out I heard a helicopter call in 10 mi southeast. I then called in and reported 10 mi east also. No other communication was heard from the helicopter. At 4 mi I called a left base for runway 22. The unicom came back and said runway 22 was closed; so I reported I would use runway 26. I called again on final. No response from anyone. At about 50 ft; power off and at almost stall speed over the numbers a helicopter appeared on my left; just short of the taxiway. I assumed he was going to land or taxi down the taxiway. Seconds later he came right over the runway and turned down it. I was so close that I had only a second to decide to either push the plane down onto the runway and land under him or attempt to turn right with no power no altitude no airspeed and a full load. I did not think I could make such a radical maneuver without stalling; so I went under the helicopter. I also yelled my intentions over the radio as soon as I knew I was going under him. I contacted the person on the radio afterwards and they verified that there was no communication from the helicopter after the 10 mi call. But they did hear me and had talked to me in the pattern. I then talked to the nurse on board the helicopter and she informed me that they had been having problems with the radio all morning; although the pilot would not admit it. I believe someone had bad radios. I checked mine out every way I could; but found nothing. My plane is a 1998 with approximately 1000 hours on it; which makes it even more unlikely to have a problem. I also checked the far's and if I am reading them right 91-126 B2; 91-127 a; and 91-129 F2 all state that helicopter's must avoid the flow of fixed wing aircraft at uncontrolled airports. Also 91-119 D may apply. This report was also given via phone to ZAB at the time of the incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C182 PLT APCHING LRU HAD NEAR MISS WITH A HELI THAT WAS NOT RPTING POSITIONS ON CTAF.
Narrative: I WAS WBOUND FROM WICHITA FALLS TO LRU. AT ABOUT 10 MI OUT I HEARD A HELI CALL IN 10 MI SE. I THEN CALLED IN AND RPTED 10 MI E ALSO. NO OTHER COM WAS HEARD FROM THE HELI. AT 4 MI I CALLED A L BASE FOR RWY 22. THE UNICOM CAME BACK AND SAID RWY 22 WAS CLOSED; SO I RPTED I WOULD USE RWY 26. I CALLED AGAIN ON FINAL. NO RESPONSE FROM ANYONE. AT ABOUT 50 FT; PWR OFF AND AT ALMOST STALL SPD OVER THE NUMBERS A HELI APPEARED ON MY L; JUST SHORT OF THE TXWY. I ASSUMED HE WAS GOING TO LAND OR TAXI DOWN THE TXWY. SECONDS LATER HE CAME RIGHT OVER THE RWY AND TURNED DOWN IT. I WAS SO CLOSE THAT I HAD ONLY A SECOND TO DECIDE TO EITHER PUSH THE PLANE DOWN ONTO THE RWY AND LAND UNDER HIM OR ATTEMPT TO TURN R WITH NO PWR NO ALT NO AIRSPD AND A FULL LOAD. I DID NOT THINK I COULD MAKE SUCH A RADICAL MANEUVER WITHOUT STALLING; SO I WENT UNDER THE HELI. I ALSO YELLED MY INTENTIONS OVER THE RADIO AS SOON AS I KNEW I WAS GOING UNDER HIM. I CONTACTED THE PERSON ON THE RADIO AFTERWARDS AND THEY VERIFIED THAT THERE WAS NO COM FROM THE HELI AFTER THE 10 MI CALL. BUT THEY DID HEAR ME AND HAD TALKED TO ME IN THE PATTERN. I THEN TALKED TO THE NURSE ON BOARD THE HELI AND SHE INFORMED ME THAT THEY HAD BEEN HAVING PROBS WITH THE RADIO ALL MORNING; ALTHOUGH THE PLT WOULD NOT ADMIT IT. I BELIEVE SOMEONE HAD BAD RADIOS. I CHKED MINE OUT EVERY WAY I COULD; BUT FOUND NOTHING. MY PLANE IS A 1998 WITH APPROX 1000 HRS ON IT; WHICH MAKES IT EVEN MORE UNLIKELY TO HAVE A PROB. I ALSO CHKED THE FAR'S AND IF I AM READING THEM RIGHT 91-126 B2; 91-127 A; AND 91-129 F2 ALL STATE THAT HELI'S MUST AVOID THE FLOW OF FIXED WING ACFT AT UNCTLED ARPTS. ALSO 91-119 D MAY APPLY. THIS RPT WAS ALSO GIVEN VIA PHONE TO ZAB AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.