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Attributes | |
ACN | 714394 |
Time | |
Date | 200610 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zdc.artcc |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl single value : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Falcon 2000 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j150.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 11050 flight time type : 10 |
ASRS Report | 714394 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
After having reached a cruise altitude of FL290; ATC inquired as to why we were south of our cleared course. I read the controller our clearance which he replied was slightly different than what was on his strip. He turned us direct to a fix and then said that we were starting to mingle with lga arrs which made it difficult to get us down on the BOUNO3 arrival into hpn. I stated that this has happened before with this very route although it was a few yrs ago. I was acting as the sic and I recall the captain loading the flight plan from the release and I do not think I verified the FMS route from the clearance I received. I know that often; especially in the northeast corridor; your filed route is not what you are cleared to. As I recall; the filed route and the one received were the same. It may have been that these rtes looked the same (they were very close; indeed) but the difference was enough to be noticed. How the clearance we had as opposed to the ATC one were different I do not know. In the future I will not allow the FMS to be loaded until after the clearance is received. In this manner there will be no reason to be off course.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FALCON 2000 DEVIATED FROM CLRED RTE WHEN THE CREW LOADED THEIR PLANNED RTE IN THE FMC INSTEAD OF THE CLRED RTE.
Narrative: AFTER HAVING REACHED A CRUISE ALT OF FL290; ATC INQUIRED AS TO WHY WE WERE S OF OUR CLRED COURSE. I READ THE CTLR OUR CLRNC WHICH HE REPLIED WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ON HIS STRIP. HE TURNED US DIRECT TO A FIX AND THEN SAID THAT WE WERE STARTING TO MINGLE WITH LGA ARRS WHICH MADE IT DIFFICULT TO GET US DOWN ON THE BOUNO3 ARR INTO HPN. I STATED THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE WITH THIS VERY RTE ALTHOUGH IT WAS A FEW YRS AGO. I WAS ACTING AS THE SIC AND I RECALL THE CAPT LOADING THE FLT PLAN FROM THE RELEASE AND I DO NOT THINK I VERIFIED THE FMS RTE FROM THE CLRNC I RECEIVED. I KNOW THAT OFTEN; ESPECIALLY IN THE NE CORRIDOR; YOUR FILED RTE IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE CLRED TO. AS I RECALL; THE FILED RTE AND THE ONE RECEIVED WERE THE SAME. IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THESE RTES LOOKED THE SAME (THEY WERE VERY CLOSE; INDEED) BUT THE DIFFERENCE WAS ENOUGH TO BE NOTICED. HOW THE CLRNC WE HAD AS OPPOSED TO THE ATC ONE WERE DIFFERENT I DO NOT KNOW. IN THE FUTURE I WILL NOT ALLOW THE FMS TO BE LOADED UNTIL AFTER THE CLRNC IS RECEIVED. IN THIS MANNER THERE WILL BE NO REASON TO BE OFF COURSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.