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After receiving clearance to taxi into position and hold on runway 24L; B737-900 flight crew hears aircraft on approach to runway 24R switched to runway 24L and cleared to land. Stop at hold short line prior to local controller advising them to cancel position and hold clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 715635 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200610 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time type : 4500 |
| ASRS Report | 716535 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
While taxiing to runway 24L we were told to hold short of E8 on taxiway east and monitor tower. When on tower we were told to taxi taxiway east to runway 24L and position and hold runway 24L. While approaching runway 24L on taxiway east we noticed an aircraft on 1.5 mi final for runway 24R turning towards runway 24L and also heard ATC clear aircraft to land on runway 24L. We are now approaching hold short lines and captain is brining aircraft to stop. I am about to challenge our position and hold clearance when ATC now tells us to hold short runway 24L. Heavy traffic on frequency. Don't change landing aircraft's runway on short notice or give hold short instructions first.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECEIVING CLRNC TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 24L; B737-900 FLT CREW HEARS ACFT ON APCH TO RWY 24R SWITCHED TO RWY 24L AND CLRED TO LAND. STOP AT HOLD SHORT LINE PRIOR TO LCL CTLR ADVISING THEM TO CANCEL POS AND HOLD CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING TO RWY 24L WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF E8 ON TXWY E AND MONITOR TWR. WHEN ON TWR WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI TXWY E TO RWY 24L AND POS AND HOLD RWY 24L. WHILE APCHING RWY 24L ON TXWY E WE NOTICED AN ACFT ON 1.5 MI FINAL FOR RWY 24R TURNING TOWARDS RWY 24L AND ALSO HEARD ATC CLR ACFT TO LAND ON RWY 24L. WE ARE NOW APCHING HOLD SHORT LINES AND CAPT IS BRINING ACFT TO STOP. I AM ABOUT TO CHALLENGE OUR POS AND HOLD CLRNC WHEN ATC NOW TELLS US TO HOLD SHORT RWY 24L. HVY TFC ON FREQ. DON'T CHANGE LNDG ACFT'S RWY ON SHORT NOTICE OR GIVE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS FIRST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.