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Attributes | |
ACN | 716234 |
Time | |
Date | 200611 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bvi.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl single value : 2253 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bvi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bvi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | M-20 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 115 flight time total : 471 flight time type : 0 |
ASRS Report | 716234 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was in a cessna 172RG taking a standardization ride for the flight school I work for. I was with the chief pilot; who is also an FAA examiner. We took off from runway 28; at the beaver county airport as instructed by ATC. We were told to make left traffic; which we did. We turned crosswind as normal; then began to turn a left downwind. A mooney was instructed to follow the cessna (us) turning left downwind. He was coming out of the southwest; on the visual approach into beaver county airport. Soon after this instruction; the mooney took a dive under us. He overtook us in the pattern and in doing so; there was almost a midair collision. We never saw him; and he never saw us until the last min. He was given instructions to follow us; but since he never saw us; he ended up overtaking us. I am not sure of the reason we didn't see him. It could have simply been our high wings blocked our view of him. After the incident we got together with the supervisor in the tower and the pilot of the mooney claimed to be at 2400 ft which is above the typical pattern altitude. Also; one of the controllers said he was going very fast on the visual. This is partly because of the tailwind coming out of the west. I feel the incident was not our fault. We did everything we were instructed to do by ATC. We were looking outside for other traffic; but never saw the mooney. He was instructed to follow us; but he didn't and overtook us. On the radio he told ATC that he was now #1. We then followed behind him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT HAS A CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER ACFT AT BVI.
Narrative: I WAS IN A CESSNA 172RG TAKING A STANDARDIZATION RIDE FOR THE FLT SCHOOL I WORK FOR. I WAS WITH THE CHIEF PLT; WHO IS ALSO AN FAA EXAMINER. WE TOOK OFF FROM RWY 28; AT THE BEAVER COUNTY ARPT AS INSTRUCTED BY ATC. WE WERE TOLD TO MAKE L TFC; WHICH WE DID. WE TURNED XWIND AS NORMAL; THEN BEGAN TO TURN A L DOWNWIND. A MOONEY WAS INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW THE CESSNA (US) TURNING L DOWNWIND. HE WAS COMING OUT OF THE SW; ON THE VISUAL APCH INTO BEAVER COUNTY ARPT. SOON AFTER THIS INSTRUCTION; THE MOONEY TOOK A DIVE UNDER US. HE OVERTOOK US IN THE PATTERN AND IN DOING SO; THERE WAS ALMOST A MIDAIR COLLISION. WE NEVER SAW HIM; AND HE NEVER SAW US UNTIL THE LAST MIN. HE WAS GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO FOLLOW US; BUT SINCE HE NEVER SAW US; HE ENDED UP OVERTAKING US. I AM NOT SURE OF THE REASON WE DIDN'T SEE HIM. IT COULD HAVE SIMPLY BEEN OUR HIGH WINGS BLOCKED OUR VIEW OF HIM. AFTER THE INCIDENT WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE SUPVR IN THE TWR AND THE PLT OF THE MOONEY CLAIMED TO BE AT 2400 FT WHICH IS ABOVE THE TYPICAL PATTERN ALT. ALSO; ONE OF THE CTLRS SAID HE WAS GOING VERY FAST ON THE VISUAL. THIS IS PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE TAILWIND COMING OUT OF THE W. I FEEL THE INCIDENT WAS NOT OUR FAULT. WE DID EVERYTHING WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO DO BY ATC. WE WERE LOOKING OUTSIDE FOR OTHER TFC; BUT NEVER SAW THE MOONEY. HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW US; BUT HE DIDN'T AND OVERTOOK US. ON THE RADIO HE TOLD ATC THAT HE WAS NOW #1. WE THEN FOLLOWED BEHIND HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.