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Attributes | |
ACN | 719759 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : chs.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : jfk |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 719759 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 719758 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We departed jfk on the kennedy one departure; canarsie climb off runway 31L. We turned at 400 ft to go direct cri VOR. I had the 039 degree radial dialed in on green data prior to departure. As we approached cri; the autoplt was engaged and the aircraft began to turn to the right. Unsure of why the aircraft was turning; I put the autoplt in heading mode and made a turn to the left to get back direct cri. I then noticed we were close to the VOR and the needle was swinging and as we approached we were about to pass over the VOR. About this time the ATC departure controller tells us to turn to a heading of 060 degrees; a l-hand turn. He then verifies if we are on the canarsie climb and we say affirmative. He instructs us to turn immediately to 060 degrees while we were already in the turn. He tells us that we really need to read the departure carefully to follow it; which we thought we were doing. He didn't tell us what we did wrong if anything. After discussing the departure with the first officer; we concluded that we must have passed the 039 degree radial while flying direct to cri; but we can't be sure since we weren't told what the problem was by ATC. It had been a long day and the crew had endured bad WX and an extensive; unnecessary ground delay prior to this leg. The crew had not eaten a meal in the previous 11 hours. We were hungry and tired. With only a 35 min flight to our overnight; we chose to skip trying to get something to eat at jfk; thinking restaurants would probably be closed on a sunday night anyway. In retrospect; knowing it usually takes a long time to get out of jfk; we should have taken some time to see what we could have gotten to eat; in order to keep our bodies and brains functioning properly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 CREW ROUSES THE IRE OF AN N90 CTLR DURING THE KENNEDY ONE CRI CLB.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED JFK ON THE KENNEDY ONE DEP; CANARSIE CLB OFF RWY 31L. WE TURNED AT 400 FT TO GO DIRECT CRI VOR. I HAD THE 039 DEG RADIAL DIALED IN ON GREEN DATA PRIOR TO DEP. AS WE APCHED CRI; THE AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED AND THE ACFT BEGAN TO TURN TO THE R. UNSURE OF WHY THE ACFT WAS TURNING; I PUT THE AUTOPLT IN HDG MODE AND MADE A TURN TO THE L TO GET BACK DIRECT CRI. I THEN NOTICED WE WERE CLOSE TO THE VOR AND THE NEEDLE WAS SWINGING AND AS WE APCHED WE WERE ABOUT TO PASS OVER THE VOR. ABOUT THIS TIME THE ATC DEP CTLR TELLS US TO TURN TO A HDG OF 060 DEGS; A L-HAND TURN. HE THEN VERIFIES IF WE ARE ON THE CANARSIE CLB AND WE SAY AFFIRMATIVE. HE INSTRUCTS US TO TURN IMMEDIATELY TO 060 DEGS WHILE WE WERE ALREADY IN THE TURN. HE TELLS US THAT WE REALLY NEED TO READ THE DEP CAREFULLY TO FOLLOW IT; WHICH WE THOUGHT WE WERE DOING. HE DIDN'T TELL US WHAT WE DID WRONG IF ANYTHING. AFTER DISCUSSING THE DEP WITH THE FO; WE CONCLUDED THAT WE MUST HAVE PASSED THE 039 DEG RADIAL WHILE FLYING DIRECT TO CRI; BUT WE CAN'T BE SURE SINCE WE WEREN'T TOLD WHAT THE PROB WAS BY ATC. IT HAD BEEN A LONG DAY AND THE CREW HAD ENDURED BAD WX AND AN EXTENSIVE; UNNECESSARY GND DELAY PRIOR TO THIS LEG. THE CREW HAD NOT EATEN A MEAL IN THE PREVIOUS 11 HRS. WE WERE HUNGRY AND TIRED. WITH ONLY A 35 MIN FLT TO OUR OVERNIGHT; WE CHOSE TO SKIP TRYING TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT AT JFK; THINKING RESTAURANTS WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSED ON A SUNDAY NIGHT ANYWAY. IN RETROSPECT; KNOWING IT USUALLY TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET OUT OF JFK; WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN SOME TIME TO SEE WHAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO EAT; IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR BODIES AND BRAINS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.