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Attributes | |
ACN | 720771 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream 200 [G200] (IAI 1126 Galaxy) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 26000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 720771 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 6990 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 720770 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Chart | sid : teb5 |
Narrative:
We were scheduled for a XJ00 local departure out of teb after being up since XA00. The passenger finally arrived at XJ45 just in time to hit 'rush hour' trying to departure teb for ZZZ1. When we called for engine start we were told we would be placed in the 'queue.' after 30 plus mins our startup clearance came through. As we taxied to the active runway (runway 24) we were advised a 'stop' was placed on westbound departures. This resulted in another delay. At XL00 local we were cleared for takeoff on the TEB5 departure; which calls for a climb to 800 ft then a right turn heading 280 degrees to maintain 1500 ft. This is what the captain briefed prior to departure. All went as briefed; however; the captain overshot 1500 ft. I said 1500 ft; 1500 ft several times and he corrected from 1750 ft back down to 1500 ft. ZNY came on at the same time and said; 'air carrier X; you are supposed to be level at 1500 ft.' we told him we had corrected and were; in fact; level at 1500 ft. That was the end of our conversation with him and we were handed off to the next controller. I believe this incident occurred for 3 reasons: 1) we were worn down by the rolling delays. 2) we had been up all day prior to the flight; and 3) the captain had not flown this aircraft as PIC in more than 2 months and was slow to pull the power back for leveloff at 1500 ft which resulted in the overshoot. An additional factor was the weight of the aircraft. We generally leave teb with a fuel load of fuel for the trip to the west coast (winds permitting). This flight had a very light fuel load since we were stopping in ZZZ; a one hour flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A G200 DEPARTING ON THE TEB5 EXCEEDED THE INITIAL 1500 FT LEVELOFF ALT BY 250 FT THEN DSNDED BACK TO 1500 FT.
Narrative: WE WERE SCHEDULED FOR A XJ00 LOCAL DEP OUT OF TEB AFTER BEING UP SINCE XA00. THE PAX FINALLY ARRIVED AT XJ45 JUST IN TIME TO HIT 'RUSH HOUR' TRYING TO DEP TEB FOR ZZZ1. WHEN WE CALLED FOR ENG START WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD BE PLACED IN THE 'QUEUE.' AFTER 30 PLUS MINS OUR STARTUP CLRNC CAME THROUGH. AS WE TAXIED TO THE ACTIVE RWY (RWY 24) WE WERE ADVISED A 'STOP' WAS PLACED ON WESTBOUND DEPS. THIS RESULTED IN ANOTHER DELAY. AT XL00 LOCAL WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON THE TEB5 DEP; WHICH CALLS FOR A CLB TO 800 FT THEN A RIGHT TURN HDG 280 DEGS TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT. THIS IS WHAT THE CAPT BRIEFED PRIOR TO DEP. ALL WENT AS BRIEFED; HOWEVER; THE CAPT OVERSHOT 1500 FT. I SAID 1500 FT; 1500 FT SEVERAL TIMES AND HE CORRECTED FROM 1750 FT BACK DOWN TO 1500 FT. ZNY CAME ON AT THE SAME TIME AND SAID; 'ACR X; YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEVEL AT 1500 FT.' WE TOLD HIM WE HAD CORRECTED AND WERE; IN FACT; LEVEL AT 1500 FT. THAT WAS THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION WITH HIM AND WE WERE HANDED OFF TO THE NEXT CTLR. I BELIEVE THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED FOR 3 REASONS: 1) WE WERE WORN DOWN BY THE ROLLING DELAYS. 2) WE HAD BEEN UP ALL DAY PRIOR TO THE FLT; AND 3) THE CAPT HAD NOT FLOWN THIS ACFT AS PIC IN MORE THAN 2 MONTHS AND WAS SLOW TO PULL THE POWER BACK FOR LEVELOFF AT 1500 FT WHICH RESULTED IN THE OVERSHOOT. AN ADDITIONAL FACTOR WAS THE WT OF THE ACFT. WE GENERALLY LEAVE TEB WITH A FUEL LOAD OF FUEL FOR THE TRIP TO THE WEST COAST (WINDS PERMITTING). THIS FLT HAD A VERY LIGHT FUEL LOAD SINCE WE WERE STOPPING IN ZZZ; A ONE HOUR FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.