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Attributes | |
ACN | 722315 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 197 flight time total : 2253 flight time type : 798 |
ASRS Report | 722315 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 722101 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
This altitude deviation occurred at ZZZ on dec/tue/06 flying the ILS runway 28 approach. I was the PF and the captain was the PNF the last transmission before the deviation occurred was 'air carrier X fly heading three zero zero; (I believe it was three zero zero; or it was very close to that) descend and maintain three thousand five hundred ft; maintain 180 KTS till the marker cleared ILS two eight approach.' the captain read back the clearance and I armed the approach on the automatic flight control system (afcs) and the captain set 3500 in the advisory display unit (adu). To keep things simple on this report I will use the term autoplt to represent the adu and afcs because they are connected and one is needed in order to use the other. I was using vertical speed mode on the autoplt and I believe I set about 1200 FPM. At the time we were cleared for the approach I believe we were at 4500 ft 'mean' sea level (MSL) and we were still descending to 3500 ft MSL. As the airplane approached 3500 ft MSL it descended through that altitude; but this is sometimes normal for this autoplt because it will climb right back to the altitude that it should; but in this case it kept descending. I immediately tried to set vertical speed mode and select a 500 FPM climb rate using the autoplt. The autoplt did not respond; but instead several dashes were showing in the adu window in the area that it would show a positive climb or negative climb rate. After all this occurred the airplane was around 3400-3300 ft MSL and descending about 700-1000 FPM. At that point I immediately grabbed the control wheel and pressed the tcs (touch control steering) button to fly the plane manually. The flight conditions were instrument meteorological conditions (IMC); icing; and continuous light chop turbulence. To prevent putting a lot of stress on the airplane I pulled back firmly and smoothly. By the time I did get a positive rate of climb the airplane was slightly lower than 3300 ft MSL. I held on to the control wheel and manually climbed back to 3500 ft MSL. After getting the aircraft stabilized I then elected to engage the autoplt while keeping my r-hand on the control wheel so I could press the tcs in case it did not respond properly. Shortly after the aircraft was stabilized the localizer began to 'come alive' meaning the CDI needle was beginning to move from the right pane of the HSI window. I elected to continue using the autoplt a little longer; but later disconnected it and hand flew the approach to the landing. In this environment ATC did not query us to indicate that a problem had occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATR72 DESCENDED 300' BELOW THE ASSIGNED ILS INITIAL APP FIX ALTITUDE WHEN THE AUTOPILOT DID NOT CAPTURE THE ADU SELECTED ALTITUDE.
Narrative: THIS ALTDEV OCCURRED AT ZZZ ON DEC/TUE/06 FLYING THE ILS RWY 28 APCH. I WAS THE PF AND THE CAPT WAS THE PNF THE LAST XMISSION BEFORE THE DEV OCCURRED WAS 'ACR X FLY HDG THREE ZERO ZERO; (I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE ZERO ZERO; OR IT WAS VERY CLOSE TO THAT) DSND AND MAINTAIN THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FT; MAINTAIN 180 KTS TILL THE MARKER CLRED ILS TWO EIGHT APCH.' THE CAPT READ BACK THE CLRNC AND I ARMED THE APCH ON THE AUTO FLT CTL SYS (AFCS) AND THE CAPT SET 3500 IN THE ADVISORY DISPLAY UNIT (ADU). TO KEEP THINGS SIMPLE ON THIS RPT I WILL USE THE TERM AUTOPLT TO REPRESENT THE ADU AND AFCS BECAUSE THEY ARE CONNECTED AND ONE IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO USE THE OTHER. I WAS USING VERT SPD MODE ON THE AUTOPLT AND I BELIEVE I SET ABOUT 1200 FPM. AT THE TIME WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH I BELIEVE WE WERE AT 4500 FT 'MEAN' SEA LEVEL (MSL) AND WE WERE STILL DSNDING TO 3500 FT MSL. AS THE AIRPLANE APCHED 3500 FT MSL IT DSNDED THROUGH THAT ALT; BUT THIS IS SOMETIMES NORMAL FOR THIS AUTOPLT BECAUSE IT WILL CLB RIGHT BACK TO THE ALT THAT IT SHOULD; BUT IN THIS CASE IT KEPT DSNDING. I IMMEDIATELY TRIED TO SET VERT SPD MODE AND SELECT A 500 FPM CLB RATE USING THE AUTOPLT. THE AUTOPLT DID NOT RESPOND; BUT INSTEAD SEVERAL DASHES WERE SHOWING IN THE ADU WINDOW IN THE AREA THAT IT WOULD SHOW A POSITIVE CLB OR NEGATIVE CLB RATE. AFTER ALL THIS OCCURRED THE AIRPLANE WAS AROUND 3400-3300 FT MSL AND DSNDING ABOUT 700-1000 FPM. AT THAT POINT I IMMEDIATELY GRABBED THE CTL WHEEL AND PRESSED THE TCS (TOUCH CTL STEERING) BUTTON TO FLY THE PLANE MANUALLY. THE FLT CONDITIONS WERE INST METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS (IMC); ICING; AND CONTINUOUS LIGHT CHOP TURB. TO PREVENT PUTTING A LOT OF STRESS ON THE AIRPLANE I PULLED BACK FIRMLY AND SMOOTHLY. BY THE TIME I DID GET A POSITIVE RATE OF CLB THE AIRPLANE WAS SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN 3300 FT MSL. I HELD ON TO THE CTL WHEEL AND MANUALLY CLBED BACK TO 3500 FT MSL. AFTER GETTING THE ACFT STABILIZED I THEN ELECTED TO ENGAGE THE AUTOPLT WHILE KEEPING MY R-HAND ON THE CTL WHEEL SO I COULD PRESS THE TCS IN CASE IT DID NOT RESPOND PROPERLY. SHORTLY AFTER THE ACFT WAS STABILIZED THE LOC BEGAN TO 'COME ALIVE' MEANING THE CDI NEEDLE WAS BEGINNING TO MOVE FROM THE R PANE OF THE HSI WINDOW. I ELECTED TO CONTINUE USING THE AUTOPLT A LITTLE LONGER; BUT LATER DISCONNECTED IT AND HAND FLEW THE APCH TO THE LNDG. IN THIS ENVIRONMENT ATC DID NOT QUERY US TO INDICATE THAT A PROB HAD OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.