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Attributes | |
ACN | 722785 |
Time | |
Date | 200612 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 722785 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After pushing back from gate at msp; was told by ground to taxi to runway 12R via taxiway C and taxiway a. Approaching runway 22 at taxiway a; we confirmed clearance to cross runway 22. Ground said 'taxi to runway 12R via taxiway a; cross runway 22.' we crossed runway 22 and continued on taxiway a; rolling to a stop at intersection A9; and staying with ground frequency for sequencing. There was a single aircraft in front of us; holding short of the runway; a B757. When we completed our takeoff checklist up to the PA and chime; the captain released the parking brake and we began to roll forward. The next thing I was aware of; our aircraft came to a sudden; hard stop. To our left; squeezing between our aircraft on intersection A9 and the edge lighting; a commuter crj was taxiing very fast with no lights on and rounded the corner; cutting us off. They were so close to our jet; I could see both pairs of cockpit crew member's eyes at night. I seriously doubted their wing would clear our nose; as the crj continued at speed around the corner. I saw their winglet flash right past and beneath the captain's windows. I keyed the microphone and advised ground that we just had a jet taxi in front of us. His reply was that the rj was on tower frequency. We switched tower frequency; and reported the incident. Tower's reply was that they cleared the rj off the runway due to higher priority landing traffic. They seemed very unconcerned with our near collision. I have never been closer to an aircraft accident in my career. In my opinion; if the crj was told to clear and couldn't do it safely; it was that crew's responsibility to alert tower of that fact and stop their aircraft. The only safe course of action was to send the landing aircraft around. 2 aircraft were put in jeopardy on 2 different frequencys; so that an airplane wouldn't have to do a perfectly safe go around maneuver.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 FOR CREW HAS A GND CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER ACFT AT MSP.
Narrative: AFTER PUSHING BACK FROM GATE AT MSP; WAS TOLD BY GND TO TAXI TO RWY 12R VIA TXWY C AND TXWY A. APCHING RWY 22 AT TXWY A; WE CONFIRMED CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 22. GND SAID 'TAXI TO RWY 12R VIA TXWY A; CROSS RWY 22.' WE CROSSED RWY 22 AND CONTINUED ON TXWY A; ROLLING TO A STOP AT INTXN A9; AND STAYING WITH GND FREQ FOR SEQUENCING. THERE WAS A SINGLE ACFT IN FRONT OF US; HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY; A B757. WHEN WE COMPLETED OUR TKOF CHKLIST UP TO THE PA AND CHIME; THE CAPT RELEASED THE PARKING BRAKE AND WE BEGAN TO ROLL FORWARD. THE NEXT THING I WAS AWARE OF; OUR ACFT CAME TO A SUDDEN; HARD STOP. TO OUR L; SQUEEZING BTWN OUR ACFT ON INTXN A9 AND THE EDGE LIGHTING; A COMMUTER CRJ WAS TAXIING VERY FAST WITH NO LIGHTS ON AND ROUNDED THE CORNER; CUTTING US OFF. THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO OUR JET; I COULD SEE BOTH PAIRS OF COCKPIT CREW MEMBER'S EYES AT NIGHT. I SERIOUSLY DOUBTED THEIR WING WOULD CLR OUR NOSE; AS THE CRJ CONTINUED AT SPEED AROUND THE CORNER. I SAW THEIR WINGLET FLASH RIGHT PAST AND BENEATH THE CAPT'S WINDOWS. I KEYED THE MIKE AND ADVISED GND THAT WE JUST HAD A JET TAXI IN FRONT OF US. HIS REPLY WAS THAT THE RJ WAS ON TWR FREQ. WE SWITCHED TWR FREQ; AND RPTED THE INCIDENT. TWR'S REPLY WAS THAT THEY CLRED THE RJ OFF THE RWY DUE TO HIGHER PRIORITY LNDG TFC. THEY SEEMED VERY UNCONCERNED WITH OUR NEAR COLLISION. I HAVE NEVER BEEN CLOSER TO AN ACFT ACCIDENT IN MY CAREER. IN MY OPINION; IF THE CRJ WAS TOLD TO CLR AND COULDN'T DO IT SAFELY; IT WAS THAT CREW'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ALERT TWR OF THAT FACT AND STOP THEIR ACFT. THE ONLY SAFE COURSE OF ACTION WAS TO SEND THE LNDG ACFT AROUND. 2 ACFT WERE PUT IN JEOPARDY ON 2 DIFFERENT FREQS; SO THAT AN AIRPLANE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A PERFECTLY SAFE GAR MANEUVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.