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Attributes | |
ACN | 723312 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zob.artcc |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 723312 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to assigned airspace |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Told to hold at brokk at FL370 as published. Captain set it up in the FMS and we reported in the hold; captain talked to passenger and flight attendants and I (first officer) pulled up WX for jfk and alternates. I noticed the bank as only about 8 degrees and about that time ZOB told us to turn right to 320 degrees and said we were 50 mi from the hold. We were only 25 mi from brokk but in a very wide pattern. We flew the rest of the pattern on heading and not the FMS. The next flight behind us was also off course. I believe that at that altitude (FL370) and with a 150 KT tailwind the FMS could not keep up. We should have done it manually; but were distraction by other tasks.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLT CREW HAS A TRACK AND HDG DEV DURING HOLDING.
Narrative: TOLD TO HOLD AT BROKK AT FL370 AS PUBLISHED. CAPT SET IT UP IN THE FMS AND WE RPTED IN THE HOLD; CAPT TALKED TO PAX AND FLT ATTENDANTS AND I (FO) PULLED UP WX FOR JFK AND ALTERNATES. I NOTICED THE BANK AS ONLY ABOUT 8 DEGS AND ABOUT THAT TIME ZOB TOLD US TO TURN R TO 320 DEGS AND SAID WE WERE 50 MI FROM THE HOLD. WE WERE ONLY 25 MI FROM BROKK BUT IN A VERY WIDE PATTERN. WE FLEW THE REST OF THE PATTERN ON HDG AND NOT THE FMS. THE NEXT FLT BEHIND US WAS ALSO OFF COURSE. I BELIEVE THAT AT THAT ALT (FL370) AND WITH A 150 KT TAILWIND THE FMS COULD NOT KEEP UP. WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT MANUALLY; BUT WERE DISTR BY OTHER TASKS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.