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Attributes | |
ACN | 723413 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : reedr |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : reedr.3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 723413 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 723224 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descending into lax on autoplt during moderate turbulence and using a STAR I've never used before en route to a runway neither the first officer nor I have ever landed on (runway 7L); we failed to turn and track outbound from reedr intersection. The aircraft continued on previous heading and did not make the turn. Approach control asked our heading; and before we could answer him; he vectored us in the direction we should have been going. No conflict occurred. Contributing factors include a vector off the STAR a few minutes earlier; the clearance to a fix on the STAR that was part of another transition. Then we were cleared to continue the STAR from that fix. When approaching the turn point we missed; approach control changed our runway assignment. PF reselected the runway on the FMS and apparently the LNAV dropped out when he did so. The distraction of the new STAR; moderate turbulence; reclearance to a different transition and finally a last minute change all contributed to this event. Why can't approach control in lax stick to their original plan? With FMS programming; going into lax is almost always a goat rope! One of these days these continual last minute changes may cause a serious conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 MISSED THE LAX REEDR3 STAR TURN AT REEDR INTXN AFTER A VECTOR OFF THE ARR AND A RWY CHANGE REQUIRED AN FMS PROGRAMMING CHANGE.
Narrative: DESCENDING INTO LAX ON AUTOPLT DURING MODERATE TURB AND USING A STAR I'VE NEVER USED BEFORE ENRTE TO A RWY NEITHER THE FO NOR I HAVE EVER LANDED ON (RWY 7L); WE FAILED TO TURN AND TRACK OUTBOUND FROM REEDR INTXN. THE ACFT CONTINUED ON PREVIOUS HDG AND DID NOT MAKE THE TURN. APCH CTL ASKED OUR HDG; AND BEFORE WE COULD ANSWER HIM; HE VECTORED US IN THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOING. NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDE A VECTOR OFF THE STAR A FEW MINUTES EARLIER; THE CLRNC TO A FIX ON THE STAR THAT WAS PART OF ANOTHER TRANSITION. THEN WE WERE CLRED TO CONTINUE THE STAR FROM THAT FIX. WHEN APCHING THE TURN POINT WE MISSED; APCH CTL CHANGED OUR RWY ASSIGNMENT. PF RESELECTED THE RWY ON THE FMS AND APPARENTLY THE LNAV DROPPED OUT WHEN HE DID SO. THE DISTRACTION OF THE NEW STAR; MODERATE TURB; RECLEARANCE TO A DIFFERENT TRANSITION AND FINALLY A LAST MINUTE CHANGE ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT. WHY CAN'T APCH CTL IN LAX STICK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN? WITH FMS PROGRAMMING; GOING INTO LAX IS ALMOST ALWAYS A GOAT ROPE! ONE OF THESE DAYS THESE CONTINUAL LAST MINUTE CHANGES MAY CAUSE A SERIOUS CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.