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Attributes | |
ACN | 723667 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 723667 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
Chart | sid : teb 5 |
Narrative:
Our clearance was the teb 5 departure. Taxiing out in miserable conditions we were assigned runway 24. This is the most noise sensitive runway at teb; and we therefore requested a runway 19 departure. Holding short of runway 19; ATC informed us that while there was no delay off of runway 24; we might be waiting for runway 19. After 10 mins we were told to expect up to 1 hour for a takeoff clearance. Because we had passenger; we decided to ask for a noise 'plot' and accept runway 24. Operations came back with a plot approach; and I informed ATC we wished to switch to runway 24. We were quickly cleared for takeoff. After briefing the teb 5 runway 24 departure; we executed the takeoff. At approximately 500 ft AGL the autoplt was engaged. The power was then reduced to climb EPR; and a climb checklist executed. At approximately 1300 ft we were switched to departure. On contacting the new controller; the first officer stated out of 1500 ft for 2000 ft. The controller replied 'air carrier X you were supposed to stop at 1500 ft. Never mind now; continue to 2000 ft.' realizing the autoplt hadn't captured; I disengaged it; and leveled off by hand. I continued to hand fly the rest of the departure. Before sending us to the next frequency; the controller stated that there most likely would be a pilot deviation. I believe that the primary cause was the last min switch to a different runway while not allowing time for full brief and confirming proper cockpit set up. (The first officer thought the departure went straight to 2000 ft with no level off.) I feel very strongly that the delays at teb on runway 19 are due to politics; not traffic; as the tracks after the turn are both on a heading of 280 degrees with very little horizontal separation. There can't be much difference to overhead traffic inbound to ewr. With a 'voluntary' ban on stage 2 traffic already in place; it isn't hard to imagine an unofficial policy in place to discourage stage 2 operations. One can only hope this is not the case. On a final note; since the controller told us to continue to 2000 ft when we were still within 300 ft of the assigned altitude (1500 ft) I believe that there is a good argument that no violation occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A G4 DEPARTING TEB RWY 24 MISSED THE LEVEL OFF AT 1500 FT. ACFT WAS CLRED TO CLB AFTER DISCUSSION.
Narrative: OUR CLRNC WAS THE TEB 5 DEP. TAXIING OUT IN MISERABLE CONDITIONS WE WERE ASSIGNED RWY 24. THIS IS THE MOST NOISE SENSITIVE RWY AT TEB; AND WE THEREFORE REQUESTED A RWY 19 DEP. HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 19; ATC INFORMED US THAT WHILE THERE WAS NO DELAY OFF OF RWY 24; WE MIGHT BE WAITING FOR RWY 19. AFTER 10 MINS WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT UP TO 1 HR FOR A TAKEOFF CLRNC. BECAUSE WE HAD PAX; WE DECIDED TO ASK FOR A NOISE 'PLOT' AND ACCEPT RWY 24. OPS CAME BACK WITH A PLOT APCH; AND I INFORMED ATC WE WISHED TO SWITCH TO RWY 24. WE WERE QUICKLY CLRED FOR TKOF. AFTER BRIEFING THE TEB 5 RWY 24 DEP; WE EXECUTED THE TKOF. AT APPROX 500 FT AGL THE AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED. THE PWR WAS THEN REDUCED TO CLB EPR; AND A CLB CHKLIST EXECUTED. AT APPROX 1300 FT WE WERE SWITCHED TO DEP. ON CONTACTING THE NEW CTLR; THE FO STATED OUT OF 1500 FT FOR 2000 FT. THE CTLR REPLIED 'ACR X YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO STOP AT 1500 FT. NEVER MIND NOW; CONTINUE TO 2000 FT.' REALIZING THE AUTOPLT HADN'T CAPTURED; I DISENGAGED IT; AND LEVELED OFF BY HAND. I CONTINUED TO HAND FLY THE REST OF THE DEP. BEFORE SENDING US TO THE NEXT FREQ; THE CTLR STATED THAT THERE MOST LIKELY WOULD BE A PLT DEV. I BELIEVE THAT THE PRIMARY CAUSE WAS THE LAST MIN SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT RWY WHILE NOT ALLOWING TIME FOR FULL BRIEF AND CONFIRMING PROPER COCKPIT SET UP. (THE FO THOUGHT THE DEP WENT STRAIGHT TO 2000 FT WITH NO LEVEL OFF.) I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE DELAYS AT TEB ON RWY 19 ARE DUE TO POLITICS; NOT TFC; AS THE TRACKS AFTER THE TURN ARE BOTH ON A HEADING OF 280 DEGS WITH VERY LITTLE HORIZONTAL SEPARATION. THERE CAN'T BE MUCH DIFFERENCE TO OVERHEAD TFC INBOUND TO EWR. WITH A 'VOLUNTARY' BAN ON STAGE 2 TFC ALREADY IN PLACE; IT ISN'T HARD TO IMAGINE AN UNOFFICIAL POLICY IN PLACE TO DISCOURAGE STAGE 2 OPS. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THIS IS NOT THE CASE. ON A FINAL NOTE; SINCE THE CTLR TOLD US TO CONTINUE TO 2000 FT WHEN WE WERE STILL WITHIN 300 FT OF THE ASSIGNED ALT (1500 FT) I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GOOD ARGUMENT THAT NO VIOLATION OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.