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Attributes | |
ACN | 725125 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | CRJ 900 (all) Canadair Regional Jet 900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 36l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 725125 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were southeast of the airport being vectored for the ILS runway 36L. Aircraft #2 was southwest of the airport being vectored for the ILS runway 36R. We got a 300 degree heading and an altitude of 4000 ft. I read back the clearance. We put 4000 ft in the altitude selector and both pilots verified the altitude. This is when we became aware of the other aircraft. It passed below us as we were passing through 5000 ft. We never did get an RA on the airplane but we did get a TA. Approach control then turned us to about 350 degrees to join the localizer and told us to maintain 5000 ft to marjo cleared for ILS runway 36L. I told approach control you cleared us to 4000 ft. We will have to climb back up to 5000 ft. We were established on the localizer and the first officer did not start the climb to 5000 ft until we were at 4100 ft and I told him to do so. Once in the climb; approach control broke us out. Left turn 270 degree heading and vectored us back around for the ILS to runway 36L. Aircraft #2 was established on the ILS for runway 36R; but was concerned about our altitude. Could have been avoided if the aircraft from the west got vectored for the ILS to runway 36L and we got the ILS to runway 36R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PLT DESCRIBED CONFLICT AT 4500 FT DURING VECTORS FOR ILS RWY 36L AT CLT.
Narrative: WE WERE SE OF THE ARPT BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 36L. ACFT #2 WAS SW OF THE ARPT BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 36R. WE GOT A 300 DEG HDG AND AN ALT OF 4000 FT. I READ BACK THE CLRNC. WE PUT 4000 FT IN THE ALT SELECTOR AND BOTH PLTS VERIFIED THE ALT. THIS IS WHEN WE BECAME AWARE OF THE OTHER ACFT. IT PASSED BELOW US AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 5000 FT. WE NEVER DID GET AN RA ON THE AIRPLANE BUT WE DID GET A TA. APCH CTL THEN TURNED US TO ABOUT 350 DEGS TO JOIN THE LOC AND TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 5000 FT TO MARJO CLRED FOR ILS RWY 36L. I TOLD APCH CTL YOU CLRED US TO 4000 FT. WE WILL HAVE TO CLB BACK UP TO 5000 FT. WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC AND THE FO DID NOT START THE CLB TO 5000 FT UNTIL WE WERE AT 4100 FT AND I TOLD HIM TO DO SO. ONCE IN THE CLB; APCH CTL BROKE US OUT. L TURN 270 DEG HDG AND VECTORED US BACK AROUND FOR THE ILS TO RWY 36L. ACFT #2 WAS ESTABLISHED ON THE ILS FOR RWY 36R; BUT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ALT. COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE ACFT FROM THE W GOT VECTORED FOR THE ILS TO RWY 36L AND WE GOT THE ILS TO RWY 36R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.