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Attributes | |
ACN | 725315 |
Time | |
Date | 200701 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 725315 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zzz.tower |
Narrative:
On taxi out today; we noticed again for the third week in a row; that an air carrier (registration number only) with a different paint job was using the air carrier's call sign. There was no confusion this week; but there was confusion 2 weeks ago. We called for taxi and were told to wait and follow an air carrier. A different air carrier paint job taxied by us and we sat there waiting for the original air carrier. After a few mins; with no air carrier paint job in sight; we questioned ground control. They in fact said it was the plane with the other paint job. No harm; no foul during these last few weeks; but if we are trying to minimize ground confusion/incursions then call signs should match the paint job.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING ACR CALL SIGN NOT MATCHING ACFT PAINT JOB CREATING A POTENTIAL SAFETY PROBLEM.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT TODAY; WE NOTICED AGAIN FOR THE THIRD WK IN A ROW; THAT AN ACR (REGISTRATION NUMBER ONLY) WITH A DIFFERENT PAINT JOB WAS USING THE ACR'S CALL SIGN. THERE WAS NO CONFUSION THIS WEEK; BUT THERE WAS CONFUSION 2 WKS AGO. WE CALLED FOR TAXI AND WERE TOLD TO WAIT AND FOLLOW AN ACR. A DIFFERENT ACR PAINT JOB TAXIED BY US AND WE SAT THERE WAITING FOR THE ORIGINAL ACR. AFTER A FEW MINS; WITH NO ACR PAINT JOB IN SIGHT; WE QUESTIONED GND CTL. THEY IN FACT SAID IT WAS THE PLANE WITH THE OTHER PAINT JOB. NO HARM; NO FOUL DURING THESE LAST FEW WKS; BUT IF WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE GND CONFUSION/INCURSIONS THEN CALL SIGNS SHOULD MATCH THE PAINT JOB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.