EMB145 flight crew use incorrect procedures during landing on cluttered runway.

Attributes
ACN	725506
Time
Date	200701
Place
Locale Reference	airport : zzz.airport
State Reference	US
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Weather Elements	other
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	landing : roll
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	725506
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

The event occurred on a snow covered slick runway. On landing on snow-covered runway with no recent braking action report; I took controls from the first officer noting the aircraft was not slowing. After about 50% runway and very poor braking action I pointed to the #2 engine start stop switch and asked if he was ok with shutting down the right engine to reduce residual thrust and allow for shorter stopping distance. We successfully stopped and turned off at A2 the reverse high speed just before the end. The flight was uneventful and we reported the braking action as poor to ground control. I became aware yesterday at about XA30 local of a report and felt that I should respond. This was a PIC decision based on my previous experience of non thrust reverser equipped aircraft such as the T39 (sabreliner) and original DH125 where it is required to shut down the #2 engine and stop the aircraft effectively; and utilized that experience to bring the aircraft to a safe stop on the runway. Was notified by chief pilot yesterday. Training for slick runways and expanding the company and manufacturer's resources for non thrust reverser equipped aircraft or restricting their use in winter operation to known conditions.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: EMB145 FLT CREW USE INCORRECT PROCS DURING LNDG ON CLUTTERED RWY.

Narrative: THE EVENT OCCURRED ON A SNOW COVERED SLICK RWY. ON LNDG ON SNOW-COVERED RWY WITH NO RECENT BRAKING ACTION RPT; I TOOK CTLS FROM THE FO NOTING THE ACFT WAS NOT SLOWING. AFTER ABOUT 50% RWY AND VERY POOR BRAKING ACTION I POINTED TO THE #2 ENG START STOP SWITCH AND ASKED IF HE WAS OK WITH SHUTTING DOWN THE R ENG TO REDUCE RESIDUAL THRUST AND ALLOW FOR SHORTER STOPPING DISTANCE. WE SUCCESSFULLY STOPPED AND TURNED OFF AT A2 THE REVERSE HIGH SPD JUST BEFORE THE END. THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL AND WE RPTED THE BRAKING ACTION AS POOR TO GND CTL. I BECAME AWARE YESTERDAY AT ABOUT XA30 LCL OF A REPORT AND FELT THAT I SHOULD RESPOND. THIS WAS A PIC DECISION BASED ON MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE OF NON THRUST REVERSER EQUIPPED ACFT SUCH AS THE T39 (SABRELINER) AND ORIGINAL DH125 WHERE IT IS REQUIRED TO SHUT DOWN THE #2 ENG AND STOP THE ACFT EFFECTIVELY; AND UTILIZED THAT EXPERIENCE TO BRING THE ACFT TO A SAFE STOP ON THE RWY. WAS NOTIFIED BY CHIEF PLT YESTERDAY. TRAINING FOR SLICK RWYS AND EXPANDING THE COMPANY AND MANUFACTURER'S RESOURCES FOR NON THRUST REVERSER EQUIPPED ACFT OR RESTRICTING THEIR USE IN WINTER OP TO KNOWN CONDITIONS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.