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Attributes | |
ACN | 726374 |
Time | |
Date | 200702 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mroc.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 4600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 7 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mroc.tower |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 726374 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 726375 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were inbound on the ILS for runway 7; captured on the localizer and GS and zeroed out on the HUD; in other words dead on course and cleared for the approach. At approximately 4600 ft and descending; mroc tower advised; 'air carrier XXX you have traffic on the localizer wbound at 4000 ft.' since we were on the localizer (eastbound) and descending on the approach it was obvious this would not work. We immediately looked for traffic; did not get a visual; but got a snapshot glance on the navigation display of the position of the aircraft. I was in the 5 mi range and aircraft was off nose and slightly to the right. Immediately we received the TCAS alert and within seconds a TCAS climb warning. I commanded pitch up and first officer was flying followed the flight guidance perfectly. We were fully configured for landing and only climbed 200 ft. As soon as aircraft pitched up I saw aircraft out copilot window turning to pass behind our aircraft. The escape event only lasted a few seconds. The aircraft was a single engine and was within 200-300 yards horizontally; with no vertical separation until we initiated escape procedure. Supplemental information from acn 726375: as soon as aircraft pitched up; the captain saw the aircraft. It was a high wing single-engine propeller aircraft and banking towards us. There was no way he could see us with that amount of bank. I estimate he was no more than a 100 yds away as I could see some of the details on his wing. The escape event only lasted a few seconds before recovering to land.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 FLT CREW HAS A TCAS RA DURING ILS APCH TO MROC.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND ON THE ILS FOR RWY 7; CAPTURED ON THE LOC AND GS AND ZEROED OUT ON THE HUD; IN OTHER WORDS DEAD ON COURSE AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. AT APPROX 4600 FT AND DSNDING; MROC TWR ADVISED; 'ACR XXX YOU HAVE TFC ON THE LOC WBOUND AT 4000 FT.' SINCE WE WERE ON THE LOC (EBOUND) AND DSNDING ON THE APCH IT WAS OBVIOUS THIS WOULD NOT WORK. WE IMMEDIATELY LOOKED FOR TFC; DID NOT GET A VISUAL; BUT GOT A SNAPSHOT GLANCE ON THE NAV DISPLAY OF THE POS OF THE ACFT. I WAS IN THE 5 MI RANGE AND ACFT WAS OFF NOSE AND SLIGHTLY TO THE R. IMMEDIATELY WE RECEIVED THE TCAS ALERT AND WITHIN SECONDS A TCAS CLB WARNING. I COMMANDED PITCH UP AND FO WAS FLYING FOLLOWED THE FLT GUIDANCE PERFECTLY. WE WERE FULLY CONFIGURED FOR LNDG AND ONLY CLBED 200 FT. AS SOON AS ACFT PITCHED UP I SAW ACFT OUT COPLT WINDOW TURNING TO PASS BEHIND OUR ACFT. THE ESCAPE EVENT ONLY LASTED A FEW SECONDS. THE ACFT WAS A SINGLE ENG AND WAS WITHIN 200-300 YARDS HORIZONTALLY; WITH NO VERT SEPARATION UNTIL WE INITIATED ESCAPE PROC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 726375: AS SOON AS ACFT PITCHED UP; THE CAPT SAW THE ACFT. IT WAS A HIGH WING SINGLE-ENG PROP ACFT AND BANKING TOWARDS US. THERE WAS NO WAY HE COULD SEE US WITH THAT AMOUNT OF BANK. I ESTIMATE HE WAS NO MORE THAN A 100 YDS AWAY AS I COULD SEE SOME OF THE DETAILS ON HIS WING. THE ESCAPE EVENT ONLY LASTED A FEW SECONDS BEFORE RECOVERING TO LAND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.