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Attributes | |
ACN | 728637 |
Time | |
Date | 200702 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rdu.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl single value : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rdu.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time type : 13100 |
ASRS Report | 728637 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time type : 5000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff on runway 23L at rdu; and told to fly runway heading; climb and maintain 7000 ft. Soon after liftoff (under 1000 ft); the tower told us of traffic at 11 O'clock position. We called the traffic in sight; so the tower told us to continue our climb to 7000 ft maintaining a visual with the traffic. This traffic target was steady in our windshield (no left or right movement) so a right turn seemed in order. I banked the aircraft right; turning 30 degrees with 25 degrees of bank. At this point we were 1700 ft MSL (1200 ft AGL) with flaps retracting to 1 degree and climb thrust set. In order to miss the traffic we had to stop our climb immediately; so I reduced power to almost idle as I lowered the nose. During this time; we received a TCAS RA; 'reduce climb; reduce climb;' followed by; 'descend; descend; descend.' our top of climb was 2400 ft MSL before our descent to 2000 ft MSL (1600 ft AGL) to stay under traffic. The traffic was a VFR helicopter not on the tower frequency; but talking to approach control. After landing; I spoke with a man from quality assurance for the rdu tower and he expressed his concern and disappointment in the event. He said he viewed the radar tape after he returned from lunch and stated; 'I almost became nauseous after watching it.' he said it was an emergency medical helicopter that had just picked up an accident victim and usually goes over the top of the airport; but today approach decided to let him go across the departure end of rdu's runways. He said approach had called to advise them of this. This departure was very upsetting to me and my crew. When I called the flight attendants for their reaction; they told me that they thought we had lost power to both engines. Based on what I know at this time; our aircraft should not have been cleared for takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW DEPARTING RWY 23L AT RDU HAS TCAS RA WITH HELICOPTER AT 1200 FEET AGL.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 23L AT RDU; AND TOLD TO FLY RWY HDG; CLB AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT. SOON AFTER LIFTOFF (UNDER 1000 FT); THE TWR TOLD US OF TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK POS. WE CALLED THE TFC IN SIGHT; SO THE TWR TOLD US TO CONTINUE OUR CLB TO 7000 FT MAINTAINING A VISUAL WITH THE TFC. THIS TFC TARGET WAS STEADY IN OUR WINDSHIELD (NO L OR R MOVEMENT) SO A R TURN SEEMED IN ORDER. I BANKED THE ACFT R; TURNING 30 DEGS WITH 25 DEGS OF BANK. AT THIS POINT WE WERE 1700 FT MSL (1200 FT AGL) WITH FLAPS RETRACTING TO 1 DEG AND CLB THRUST SET. IN ORDER TO MISS THE TFC WE HAD TO STOP OUR CLB IMMEDIATELY; SO I REDUCED PWR TO ALMOST IDLE AS I LOWERED THE NOSE. DURING THIS TIME; WE RECEIVED A TCAS RA; 'REDUCE CLB; REDUCE CLB;' FOLLOWED BY; 'DSND; DSND; DSND.' OUR TOP OF CLB WAS 2400 FT MSL BEFORE OUR DSCNT TO 2000 FT MSL (1600 FT AGL) TO STAY UNDER TFC. THE TFC WAS A VFR HELI NOT ON THE TWR FREQ; BUT TALKING TO APCH CTL. AFTER LNDG; I SPOKE WITH A MAN FROM QUALITY ASSURANCE FOR THE RDU TWR AND HE EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN AND DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE EVENT. HE SAID HE VIEWED THE RADAR TAPE AFTER HE RETURNED FROM LUNCH AND STATED; 'I ALMOST BECAME NAUSEOUS AFTER WATCHING IT.' HE SAID IT WAS AN EMER MEDICAL HELI THAT HAD JUST PICKED UP AN ACCIDENT VICTIM AND USUALLY GOES OVER THE TOP OF THE ARPT; BUT TODAY APCH DECIDED TO LET HIM GO ACROSS THE DEP END OF RDU'S RWYS. HE SAID APCH HAD CALLED TO ADVISE THEM OF THIS. THIS DEP WAS VERY UPSETTING TO ME AND MY CREW. WHEN I CALLED THE FLT ATTENDANTS FOR THEIR REACTION; THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY THOUGHT WE HAD LOST PWR TO BOTH ENGS. BASED ON WHAT I KNOW AT THIS TIME; OUR ACFT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.