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Attributes | |
ACN | 733817 |
Time | |
Date | 200703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 8900 flight time type : 3100 |
ASRS Report | 733817 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Situations | |
Chart | airport : teb.airport sid : teterboro |
Narrative:
The teb 5 departure runway 24 on commercial chart is confusing and misleading as when to climb out of 1500 ft to 2000 ft or your assigned altitude. There are two different boxes; one for lateral navigation which also includes an altitude; and another box for vertical altitudes. In a busy environment such as teb at first glance the first box seems as though it has all criteria for the SID because lateral and vertical information is included. The solution would be to include all information lateral and vertical in 1 box.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DA90 CAPT FINDS PRESENTATION OF COMMERCIAL CHART MAKER'S TEB SID FROM TEB; CONFUSING. HAS POSSIBLE ALT DEV ON DEP.
Narrative: THE TEB 5 DEP RWY 24 ON COMMERCIAL CHART IS CONFUSING AND MISLEADING AS WHEN TO CLB OUT OF 1500 FT TO 2000 FT OR YOUR ASSIGNED ALT. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BOXES; ONE FOR LATERAL NAV WHICH ALSO INCLUDES AN ALT; AND ANOTHER BOX FOR VERTICAL ALTS. IN A BUSY ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS TEB AT FIRST GLANCE THE FIRST BOX SEEMS AS THOUGH IT HAS ALL CRITERIA FOR THE SID BECAUSE LATERAL AND VERTICAL INFO IS INCLUDED. THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO INCLUDE ALL INFO LATERAL AND VERTICAL IN 1 BOX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.