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Attributes | |
ACN | 734274 |
Time | |
Date | 200703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial ground : maintenance |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 51 flight time total : 4932 flight time type : 565 |
ASRS Report | 734274 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing from teb on the teb 5 departure off of runway 24; the SID states climb runway heading to 1500 ft then turn right heading 280 degrees. The commercial plates then state; in a separate box; to climb to 2000 ft leaving teb 4.5 DME for DME equipped aircraft. The pilot flying failed to maintain 1500 ft prior to reaching 4.5 DME and climbed to 2000 ft as per the clearance given by clearance delivery. This was made clear to us by departure control. There was no conflict with other aircraft since there were none within a 5 mile radius on TCAS. The controller stated that we review the departure again and no further action was required. Having spoken to other pilots about this; I have heard that this has occurred to other pilots as well. The reason being; the way the departure procedure is written in the commercial SID with altitudes in two separate boxes. I think if it was written the way the govt chart for the same SID is written; there would be less confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FALCON CREW CLBS TO 2000 FT EARLY ON THE TEB 5 DEP.
Narrative: DEPARTING FROM TEB ON THE TEB 5 DEP OFF OF RWY 24; THE SID STATES CLB RWY HDG TO 1500 FT THEN TURN RIGHT HDG 280 DEGS. THE COMMERCIAL PLATES THEN STATE; IN A SEPARATE BOX; TO CLB TO 2000 FT LEAVING TEB 4.5 DME FOR DME EQUIPPED ACFT. THE PLT FLYING FAILED TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT PRIOR TO REACHING 4.5 DME AND CLBED TO 2000 FT AS PER THE CLRNC GIVEN BY CLRNC DELIVERY. THIS WAS MADE CLR TO US BY DEP CTL. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER ACFT SINCE THERE WERE NONE WITHIN A 5 MILE RADIUS ON TCAS. THE CTLR STATED THAT WE REVIEW THE DEP AGAIN AND NO FURTHER ACTION WAS REQUIRED. HAVING SPOKEN TO OTHER PLTS ABOUT THIS; I HAVE HEARD THAT THIS HAS OCCURRED TO OTHER PLTS AS WELL. THE REASON BEING; THE WAY THE DEP PROC IS WRITTEN IN THE COMMERCIAL SID WITH ALTS IN TWO SEPARATE BOXES. I THINK IF IT WAS WRITTEN THE WAY THE GOVT CHART FOR THE SAME SID IS WRITTEN; THERE WOULD BE LESS CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.