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Attributes | |
ACN | 736013 |
Time | |
Date | 200704 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : kennedy.1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 736013 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We took off from runway 31L on the kennedy 1 departure breezy point climb with myself as PNF. The captain called for speed; heading; half bank; and autoplt on from 400 to 600 ft. The hydraulic 3A pump was deferred and one of the side effects of this was a very loud 'gear disagree' aural warning during gear retraction. We had briefed about it before but it was still distracting. As I was getting the gear and flaps up and trying to time my response to ATC so they would not hear the loud warning in the background; I noticed the course deviation indicator on the captain side (he was in green data; I was in white data) showing we were left of the desired course to cri. Tower asked if we were navigating to carnarsie; then switched us over to departure. We never passed directly over the VOR; we were still left of course. When we passed south of cri; I queried the captain about it at the same time departure asked if we were outbound on the cri 223 degree radial. The captain switched to white data and attempted to get on course in navigation mode; but I believe the on course indication it gave was wrong since there was a 'dr exceeds .5 mins' message on the FMS and both mfd's. The captain realized this and switched back to green data but by that time departure gave us a heading to turn to and said he showed us well left of the cri 223 degree radial. The contributing factors were making the turn towards cri in half bank and heading mode when we could have used full bank and navigation mode. Next was the distracting aural warning during the highest workload segment of the flight. I feel I could have been of more help to my captain if he could have heard me over and wasn't distracted by that aural (distracted me as well). Lastly; we both should have noticed that engaging navigation mode in white data wouldn't work with the 'dr' message.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ200 ON THE JFK KENNEDY 1 BREEZY POINT CLB OVERSHOT THE CRI 223 DEG BECAUSE THE CAPT WAS IN THE DR MODE AND A LOUD GEAR WARNING MASKED THE FO'S INPUT.
Narrative: WE TOOK OFF FROM RWY 31L ON THE KENNEDY 1 DEP BREEZY POINT CLB WITH MYSELF AS PNF. THE CAPT CALLED FOR SPD; HDG; HALF BANK; AND AUTOPLT ON FROM 400 TO 600 FT. THE HYDRAULIC 3A PUMP WAS DEFERRED AND ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THIS WAS A VERY LOUD 'GEAR DISAGREE' AURAL WARNING DURING GEAR RETRACTION. WE HAD BRIEFED ABOUT IT BEFORE BUT IT WAS STILL DISTRACTING. AS I WAS GETTING THE GEAR AND FLAPS UP AND TRYING TO TIME MY RESPONSE TO ATC SO THEY WOULD NOT HEAR THE LOUD WARNING IN THE BACKGROUND; I NOTICED THE COURSE DEVIATION INDICATOR ON THE CAPT SIDE (HE WAS IN GREEN DATA; I WAS IN WHITE DATA) SHOWING WE WERE L OF THE DESIRED COURSE TO CRI. TOWER ASKED IF WE WERE NAVIGATING TO CARNARSIE; THEN SWITCHED US OVER TO DEP. WE NEVER PASSED DIRECTLY OVER THE VOR; WE WERE STILL L OF COURSE. WHEN WE PASSED SOUTH OF CRI; I QUERIED THE CAPT ABOUT IT AT THE SAME TIME DEP ASKED IF WE WERE OUTBOUND ON THE CRI 223 DEG RADIAL. THE CAPT SWITCHED TO WHITE DATA AND ATTEMPTED TO GET ON COURSE IN NAV MODE; BUT I BELIEVE THE ON COURSE INDICATION IT GAVE WAS WRONG SINCE THERE WAS A 'DR EXCEEDS .5 MINS' MSG ON THE FMS AND BOTH MFD'S. THE CAPT REALIZED THIS AND SWITCHED BACK TO GREEN DATA BUT BY THAT TIME DEP GAVE US A HDG TO TURN TO AND SAID HE SHOWED US WELL L OF THE CRI 223 DEG RADIAL. THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE MAKING THE TURN TOWARDS CRI IN HALF BANK AND HDG MODE WHEN WE COULD HAVE USED FULL BANK AND NAV MODE. NEXT WAS THE DISTRACTING AURAL WARNING DURING THE HIGHEST WORKLOAD SEGMENT OF THE FLT. I FEEL I COULD HAVE BEEN OF MORE HELP TO MY CAPT IF HE COULD HAVE HEARD ME OVER AND WASN'T DISTRACTED BY THAT AURAL (DISTRACTED ME AS WELL). LASTLY; WE BOTH SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT ENGAGING NAV MODE IN WHITE DATA WOULDN'T WORK WITH THE 'DR' MESSAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.