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Attributes | |
ACN | 745291 |
Time | |
Date | 200707 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : civet |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 202 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 745291 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 277 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 745139 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On approach into lax we were held high for traffic and then given a clearance to descent via the civet 4 and maintain 250 knots. Neither the first officer nor I heard the clearance to descent via the civet 4 for runway 25L. The pm transmitted back descent via the civet 4 with no runway assignment. We had put in runway 24R into the FMS and just past civet the controller stated that we were right of course and asked which runway frequency we had in. We stated runway 24R and the controller stated we should be on runway 25L; so we were given a heading of 190 to intercept the runway 25L course. We intercepted the runway 25L course and flew the approach without any further problems. Upon taxiing in we were told to give TRACON a call at the gate. I called TRACON and talked with the supervisor; he had already listened to the tapes and we were given a runway assignment with the civet 4 clearance but we did not read back the runway assignment. There was no traffic conflict and he stated that they knew what the problem was right away. Confirm clearances with the other pilot. If in doubt; ask again for the clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 CREW REPORTS MISSING HEARING THE RWY ASSIGNMENT ON THE LAX CIVET ARR. ATC PROVIDED VECTORS TO ASSIGNED RWY.
Narrative: ON APPROACH INTO LAX WE WERE HELD HIGH FOR TRAFFIC AND THEN GIVEN A CLEARANCE TO DESCENT VIA THE CIVET 4 AND MAINTAIN 250 KNOTS. NEITHER THE FO NOR I HEARD THE CLEARANCE TO DESCENT VIA THE CIVET 4 FOR RWY 25L. THE PM TRANSMITTED BACK DESCENT VIA THE CIVET 4 WITH NO RWY ASSIGNMENT. WE HAD PUT IN RWY 24R INTO THE FMS AND JUST PAST CIVET THE CONTROLLER STATED THAT WE WERE RIGHT OF COURSE AND ASKED WHICH RUNWAY FREQ WE HAD IN. WE STATED RWY 24R AND THE CONTROLLER STATED WE SHOULD BE ON RWY 25L; SO WE WERE GIVEN A HEADING OF 190 TO INTERCEPT THE RWY 25L COURSE. WE INTERCEPTED THE RWY 25L COURSE AND FLEW THE APPROACH WITHOUT ANY FURTHER PROBLEMS. UPON TAXIING IN WE WERE TOLD TO GIVE TRACON A CALL AT THE GATE. I CALLED TRACON AND TALKED WITH THE SUPERVISOR; HE HAD ALREADY LISTENED TO THE TAPES AND WE WERE GIVEN A RWY ASSIGNMENT WITH THE CIVET 4 CLEARANCE BUT WE DID NOT READ BACK THE RWY ASSIGNMENT. THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC CONFLICT AND HE STATED THAT THEY KNEW WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS RIGHT AWAY. CONFIRM CLEARANCES WITH THE OTHER PILOT. IF IN DOUBT; ASK AGAIN FOR THE CLEARANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.