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C560XL flight crew reports misunderstanding and/or conflict with another aircraft during visual approach to runway 17 at slc.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 746053 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200707 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
| State Reference | UT |
| Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon artcc : zob.artcc |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation Excel |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 395 |
| ASRS Report | 746053 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 746054 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were on approach to slc. Approach controller issued a clearance to turn to a heading of 120 degrees advise airport in sight for the visual approach to runway 17. We advised airport in sight. He responded maintain visual separation from an E120 cleared for the visual. So we descended and started turning to runway 17 while descending for the airport. Reaching 8000 ft the controller issued turn right immediately to a heading of 180 degrees for runway 16R. We then asked what altitude he needed. Clearly there was a miscom. He then cleared us for the visual approach to runway 16R and stated no worries; altitude your discretion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C560XL FLT CREW RPTS MISUNDERSTANDING AND/OR CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER ACFT DURING VISUAL APCH TO RWY 17 AT SLC.
Narrative: WE WERE ON APCH TO SLC. APCH CTLR ISSUED A CLRNC TO TURN TO A HEADING OF 120 DEGS ADVISE ARPT IN SIGHT FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 17. WE ADVISED ARPT IN SIGHT. HE RESPONDED MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION FROM AN E120 CLRED FOR THE VISUAL. SO WE DESCENDED AND STARTED TURNING TO RWY 17 WHILE DESCENDING FOR THE ARPT. REACHING 8000 FT THE CTLR ISSUED TURN R IMMEDIATELY TO A HEADING OF 180 DEGS FOR RWY 16R. WE THEN ASKED WHAT ALTITUDE HE NEEDED. CLEARLY THERE WAS A MISCOM. HE THEN CLEARED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 16R AND STATED NO WORRIES; ALTITUDE YOUR DISCRETION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.